how much do bigger wheels slow you down?
TT2 are not Mustang wheels. TT2's are actually a knock off of the Cragar SS wheel. SO the stang wheels are crappy knock offs of knock offs. Seen here
now those are some nice wheels.
now those are some nice wheels.
My boyd coddington wheels weigh about 52 pounds each, with a tire mounted. They are 17x8 cast aluminum, with 245/45/17 tires.
From what I can tell, they didn't make any difference (except for the fact the car looks badass now) hehe
http://www.o-t.us/upload/guest/frontangle.jpg
http://www.o-t.us/upload/guest/driversside.jpg
From what I can tell, they didn't make any difference (except for the fact the car looks badass now) hehe
http://www.o-t.us/upload/guest/frontangle.jpg
http://www.o-t.us/upload/guest/driversside.jpg
Last edited by sc93; Apr 10, 2003 at 03:10 PM.
I might disagree with the "It's the weight, not the size" comments.
My rationale is, that the bigger the contact patch, the more resistance you will have to changes in direction. I believe some simple laws of physics i.e A body in motion tends to stay in motion come into play here.
I believe the heavier wheels would show differences in dynoing, while huge steam roller wheels would show some differences in handling and braking.
My hypothesis would be that there is a critical point, where you go with an optimum wheel size, and when increasing contact area certain performance aspects degrade until you hit a maximum where increasing size has no effect.
Maybe I'm wrong?
My rationale is, that the bigger the contact patch, the more resistance you will have to changes in direction. I believe some simple laws of physics i.e A body in motion tends to stay in motion come into play here.
I believe the heavier wheels would show differences in dynoing, while huge steam roller wheels would show some differences in handling and braking.
My hypothesis would be that there is a critical point, where you go with an optimum wheel size, and when increasing contact area certain performance aspects degrade until you hit a maximum where increasing size has no effect.
Maybe I'm wrong?
TT2's cragers and the ford mustang wheels all look the same and they come on a mustang so their mustang wheels...17's are to small. They do not look right and they stick out. (tt2's) anyway i just wanted to know if they will slow my car down not how they look
What do you mean they stick out? I have 17x9.5 TT2's, they don't stick out any more than any other 17.9.5 wheel.
TT2's are definitely power robbers. I run my stockers when I'm dyno'ing. I haven't done it yet, but plan on dyno'ing between the two sometime. Like others said, the stockers weigh about 45 lbs. each, but my TT2's weigh 54 lbs. each with tires.
- Brent
TT2's are definitely power robbers. I run my stockers when I'm dyno'ing. I haven't done it yet, but plan on dyno'ing between the two sometime. Like others said, the stockers weigh about 45 lbs. each, but my TT2's weigh 54 lbs. each with tires.
- Brent
Originally posted by former86camaro
I agree, but there is a point where size has an affect... I wonder this:
Nascar uses 15's
F1 uses 15's
NHRA uses 15's
Sidewall has a lot to play in tire performance... Less is not the best, there is a happy medium..
I agree, but there is a point where size has an affect... I wonder this:
Nascar uses 15's
F1 uses 15's
NHRA uses 15's
Sidewall has a lot to play in tire performance... Less is not the best, there is a happy medium..
Race tires can be designed for just about any wheel diameter/width mandated by the sanctioning organization and still perform superbly. F1 mandated grooved tires, but soon grip went up yet again.
FWIW, it's not just weight of the tire wheel, it's the inertia (where the weight is located) that affects acceleration so much. More mass farther from the centerline = more inertia. Yeah, you can get bigger numbers on a chassis dyno with narrower, lighter and/or shorter tires. Jacking up the pressure can also make a difference by reducing rolling resistance.
Hmmm....a dyno operator wouldn't increase tire pressure for the "after" run to make more hp to "prove" a certain mod was worth something, would he? Nah, couldn't happen.
My $.02
Originally posted by former86camaro
I agree, but there is a point where size has an affect... I wonder this:
Nascar uses 15's
F1 uses 15's
NHRA uses 15's
Sidewall has a lot to play in tire performance... Less is not the best, there is a happy medium..
I agree, but there is a point where size has an affect... I wonder this:
Nascar uses 15's
F1 uses 15's
NHRA uses 15's
Sidewall has a lot to play in tire performance... Less is not the best, there is a happy medium..
In addition, I have 2 kids in university, and I hope to be able to retire sometime before I die. IOW, I'm cheap!
Originally posted by Lions3
I might disagree with the "It's the weight, not the size" comments.
My rationale is, that the bigger the contact patch, the more resistance you will have to changes in direction. I believe some simple laws of physics i.e A body in motion tends to stay in motion come into play here.
I believe the heavier wheels would show differences in dynoing, while huge steam roller wheels would show some differences in handling and braking.
My hypothesis would be that there is a critical point, where you go with an optimum wheel size, and when increasing contact area certain performance aspects degrade until you hit a maximum where increasing size has no effect.
Maybe I'm wrong?
I might disagree with the "It's the weight, not the size" comments.
My rationale is, that the bigger the contact patch, the more resistance you will have to changes in direction. I believe some simple laws of physics i.e A body in motion tends to stay in motion come into play here.
I believe the heavier wheels would show differences in dynoing, while huge steam roller wheels would show some differences in handling and braking.
My hypothesis would be that there is a critical point, where you go with an optimum wheel size, and when increasing contact area certain performance aspects degrade until you hit a maximum where increasing size has no effect.
Maybe I'm wrong?
A heavier tire/wheel combo takes mor energy to spin.
A taller combo changes the rollout over a shorter combo
A taller sidewall makes it easier to hook up but worse in the corners.
Taller or shorter changes your torque ratio
What type of faster/slower do you want to know about?
A taller combo changes the rollout over a shorter combo
A taller sidewall makes it easier to hook up but worse in the corners.
Taller or shorter changes your torque ratio
What type of faster/slower do you want to know about?


