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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild *****
Me, too. Something about holding particles in suspension rather than letting them settle out- Old hot-rodder's trick, been around for a long time-
Ever stop to think that maybe just maybe there might have been validity to this 40 years ago but not today???

A transmission is not like an engine , no combustion, no outside air intake, nothing to really cause it to get dirty in the first place. Why would it need high detergent??


I would feel fine using AutRX on any engine that actually runs. Really good stuff.
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Alright I might just try out AutoRX then. Thanks
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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You even drop the pan on an auto transmission? They are full of sediment, particles- wear from clutches, tiny metal particles- Every tranmission I have ever had apart has a filter- why?
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Gee, from about 2 minutes research:
from the Amsoil website:
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx

Resists Oxidation and Thermal Degradation
AMSOIL ATF resists thermal and oxidative degradation better than conventional transmission fluids, protecting clutches, planetary gears, valves, pumps and seals from damaging sludge and varnish deposits.

Should I bold the parts about sludge and varnish? How about from :
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/306.cfm

To accomplish these complex tasks, ATF typically contains the following components:
Dispersants
Sludge & varnish control
Antioxidants
Prohibit oxidation
Antiwear

There is much more, but you get the idea-
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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sediment does not require detergents.

I try to get my INFORMATION from a tribologist employed by a major commercial aircraft manufacturer who moonlights blending custom lubricants. Not some old man who still uses terms like 3/4 race cam. Who do you think actually knows what he is talking about?

ATF contrains does contain dispersants not detergents.

Try and do some meaningful research, as in not listening to other ignorant kids.
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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http://www.texlube.com/oilmyths.htm
Read myth 12
hell read your own links dispersants not detergents
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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I like the myth page. It was interesting to read. Thanks for the input.
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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I can read- from YOUR link:
Fact: ATF does not contain detergent chemistry. ATF does contain dispersants, which have properties similar to detergents.

Hmm, "properties similar to detergents..." Next we can have a meanful discussion about what constitutes 'varnish' Or should I just resort to childish name-calling and belittleing? That seems to be your preferred m.o.

Someone asked a question, I replied with a little info that is 'common knowledge' and has been around probably since before you knew what a synchro was- so what? Does that make me an old fart? You don't know squat about me or my experience building engines, but you're pretty quick to jump down my neck- as if I cared what you think of me-

I answered someone's question with information- good, useful information, sans name calling (ignorant) or a haughty attitude- you might try it sometime- Next time we can just ask you, because you're friends with a tribologist-
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Oh, BTW- I got rid of my '95 Caprice with the 1.6 RR, shorty headers, Eaton posi and 4.10's at 248,000 miles, not because of lubriction problems, but because the floor was starting to rust out- nice daily driver, with room for 4 adults, luggage and golf clubs, and enough performance to keep the idiots in traffic at bay-
Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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I appreciate the info from everyone, but if this thread is going to just lead to people "bashing" on one another, can you please take it elseware. I would rather read facts or opinions that can help benefit me and others rather than read nonsense.
Thanks again.
Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Agreed- I'm a little put off, too- I give you two suggestions- one, the RX auto, everybody agrees is great, though I have no first-hand experience with it- The second advice, I have used several times, as have many, many others- and suddenly get called names and bashed- Makes me almost sorry I tried to help-

There are other ways, that I wouldn't recommend- google seafoam, a light petroleum product- people dump it into intakes, add it to crankcases- I don't think it is good to substitute for real oil your crankcase- likewise marvel mystery oil, or kerosene- another 'old-school' trick-

Modern oils are plenty good- a couple of oil changes at short intervals, say, 1000 miles would do much in flushing stuff out- change it hot, after a good hard run, so that as much of the impurities are still in suspension when you flush it out-
Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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I could take a shower in ATF. Love that stuff. I used to use it to clean grease off my hands back when I was a technician.
Old Feb 13, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Alright thanks again
Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Style
I could take a shower in ATF. Love that stuff.
Too bad you dont have an automatic in that camaro, or you would get to
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