"PS. btw...who has ever seen a super thick 12 gauge "cable" (haha)"

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I see you lacked to understand Sarcasm...


Any how adding a bunch of addons to your vehicles power efficiency has little to do with the type of wire you use if it is the correctly specified guage for the application. It would all come down to your Altinator and your Battery. That is what your vehicle depends on for power.

Anyhow I'm done with this rice talk.
This doesn't belong in the tech section it belongs in the Lounge ... this is a laughable "RICE" mode.

Join us next week were we talk about Tornado Filters and the latest LED bulbs for your Alteezas.

 

You want to know what? I'll tell you what. How about the ECM? You have what is essentially a 12 volt computer in these cars that is constantly interpreting fractions of a volt from various sensors to make the car run as well as possible. If you have loose, faulty, corroded, or just plain bad connections at any of its ground connections then you are just asking for trouble.

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If your concerned about getting good power off your battery clean the terminals off with a wire brush if thier bad... or just by some good terminal connectors to hook up your electronics. Do the same for all the Chasis connection points.

Bingo. Here's something for everyone who reads this thread to check. Look under the hood on the passenger side for the main grounding stud for the ECM (and other things). Its right above or beside the red junction box. Notice that where it mounts into the inner fender area it is an open hole that goes into the wheel well area. It is a prime area for corrosion, ask me how I know. The stud will look fine when you pull all the wires off of it, but when you unscrew the stud from the body that's where ther corrosion gets. When I pulled the stud out of the fender on my car the whole thing was green from all the corrosion in there.

This is just a hunch of mine, but I believe that this is a major cause for the infamous off-idle hesitations that these LT1s are known for (and why some people who never get them completely fixed even though they replace tons of parts).



Also, what if DSMs came from the factory with inadequate or faulty ground wires? Would upgrading them be rice then?

 

I see you lacked to understand Sarcasm...


Any how adding a bunch of addons to your vehicles power efficiency has little to do with the type of wire you use if it is the correctly specified guage for the application. It would all come down to your Altinator and your Battery. That is what your vehicle depends on for power.

Anyhow I'm done with this rice talk.
This doesn't belong in the tech section it belongs in the Lounge ... this is a laughable "RICE" mode.

Join us next week were we talk about Tornado Filters and the
latest LED bulbs for your Alteezas. [/B][/QUOTE]

ok..I see now you know what your talking about...my bad!!!

 

in what seems like to me. it all boils down to , is that ur car will run more effieciently with a better ground!

 

For baisic maintenance yeah sure a wire kit is good ... if your in dire need of it.

But if your looking for one of these kits as a performance mode... it's not going to happen...


That's all we were trying to say.

 

How about a 16V battery? I know that would help.

 

You know you can put a switch on you alternator voltage reference wire, and when you turn it off, gain 75+ hp.

Just ask any of the members who have been here a few years, they will tell you.

 

If you turn your headlights off past 140mph you gain some horsepower. It reduces the draw on the alternator reference wire. So no need to really install that switch. It's almost like nitrous. What a rush. Try it.

 

You know, you can pickup ground straps from NAPA for like $10 bucks. Then you could spend the other $10 on a real performance mod.

 

For the same price you can buy a length of thicker wire....

 

The wiring on your vehicle is undergauged from battery to gas tank. It is so, for a reason. It is less expensive to build a vehicle with smaller gauge wire, in lieu of larger. The gain of larger gauge wire, is improved charging/cranking, brighter headlights, stereo systems, and oh, check with Racetronix on the merits of larger gauge wiring. Not as dramatic when vehicle is new, but becomes more critical/important with vehicle age. Larger gauge wiring is more of an issue of durability, dependability, efficiency, and electrical system performing to max potential possible. BTW, pix of grounding, is a bit of overkill, to me, but good intentioned, nonetheless.

 

Gee that alternator of yours must be powering a city block at 75HP ???

Try 5-7 on your average street car under low battery charge conditions. The loss in system voltage would be more detrimental to the ignition and engine management system than the small engine load itself!

 

lmao...........this thread cracks me up......"ricer" mod?

maybe you should tell that to the nascar guys who have very thick and numerous grouding setups, probably 30-40lbs of it.
we all know how they are very restricted on weight, so do you think they would add all that heavy cable to their car if it was a "ricer" mod.


your ignition system(you know........the part that ignites the combustion process, your whole source of power) relies on that grounding to run at peak performance.

even on a stock vehicle, the straps they use are just barely adequate. so when you start modifying the car to make more power, and upgrading ignition components, your electrical system needs to also be upgraded in order to keep up. poor grounding can lead to hesitation, misfires, lost power, etc. (hmm.....strange coincedence that alot of LT1 owners have those probs).

 

This thread is full of missconstrued stories.
1. OF course Nascar vehicles have allot of grounding points and heavy duty wires... you have any idea how much technology is in those things? You ever see the Dodads and Gadges they're running? Don't think it's a HP issue ... more like an electrical efficiency feature.



2. Yes most ignition systems come with thier own wiring systems. My kit is directly wired to the battery... so what's your point? IT's not about HP it's about required Power for the item being used. If an item needs more voltage it probably needs a thicker wire. Simple as that...

3. This is a Ricer Mod .... I've never heard anyone in racer ever talk about Grounding points as a HP upgrade feature. This whole grounding issue started with the ricers telling about how they got 10hp from adding thicker wire under thier hoods... It's just a gimmic. Soon to be forgotten a long with the Tornado filters and Muffler bearings.

 

I was wondering if this had any BENEFITS, it seems as if it does.