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Dyno Graph for CC306

Old May 13, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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Hmm..its amazing, they owe a lot of people money still that I hear...
Old May 13, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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[i] I plan on talking to Phil Odom (Skarodom) about having some heads ported. [/B]
You'll be happy!! I got a friend with some skarodom specials...NICE WORK!!!!!!
Old May 13, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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what bothers and impresses me at the same time is your torque curve-
it only varries ~35ft lbs from 3000 all the way to 6000 rpms

i really thought the 306 would pull harder in the upper bands, especailly with such a big exhuast lope

or maybe its just pulling hard down low...

If i had to guess, no offence, but this looks like a hotcam dyno
Old May 13, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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it does look like a hotcam dyno.... and thats about the numbers it puts down with tuning/headers......
Old May 13, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Here's mine.... 306 w/ home ported heads... LT's, 2.5ich y-pipe, and 52mm tb.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Shawn9...adbar_dyno.gif
Old May 13, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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well the torque curves do look similar
Old May 13, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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Oh.. oops - my car is the blue lined dyno. 38X rwhp..

And both curves do have a slight dip in the same location, kinda like you point out Trey.

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Old May 14, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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mustang dynos always post way lower numbers than a dynojet because the mustang applies loads and variables can be changed to make it more like real world conditions

you cannot compare a mustang dyno sheet to a dynojet sheet.

your e/t and trap speed is the real indicator of how well its running, and it looks like your heads might be the problem.
Old May 14, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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Hrmmm.. Only finishing in 3rd might pose a slight problem. What gears are you running?

On 28's I run 12.0's@115.... on DR's it's high 11's at 116 - 117mph was my best, in the same conditions I ran 115 on the 28" ET drags.

For comparison's sake anyway... No telling what my car runs now as I switced to the 230/236... But it does have more torque down low - vs. the 306............ and starts putting out more power @ 4800 or so.. Has 10rw vs the 306 @5800 - where it hit valve float last time to the dyno.
Old May 14, 2003 | 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn 97 Z28 M6
Hrmmm.. Only finishing in 3rd might pose a slight problem. What gears are you running?

On 28's I run 12.0's@115.... on DR's it's high 11's at 116 - 117mph was my best, in the same conditions I ran 115 on the 28" ET drags.

For comparison's sake anyway... No telling what my car runs now as I switced to the 230/236... But it does have more torque down low - vs. the 306............ and starts putting out more power @ 4800 or so.. Has 10rw vs the 306 @5800 - where it hit valve float last time to the dyno.
Your car is interesting Shawn. I'm sure you've heard everyone going on about how "hard" the extreme series is on valvetrain. Seeing how it makes more power over the 306 indicates its doing something a little different! However, I wonder if this is the point where the extreme's "new technology" shows us that you can only push the edge so far (steep lobes + hyd lifters + revs) until you need to up the ante to a solid roller.

Ryan
Old May 14, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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Grover,

I'd also look at Futral motorsports or Meaux Racing for head work. Both have done some awesome work.
Old May 14, 2003 | 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by 96-speed
Your car is interesting Shawn. I'm sure you've heard everyone going on about how "hard" the extreme series is on valvetrain. Seeing how it makes more power over the 306 indicates its doing something a little different! However, I wonder if this is the point where the extreme's "new technology" shows us that you can only push the edge so far (steep lobes + hyd lifters + revs) until you need to up the ante to a solid roller.

Ryan
I'm running that really steep grind - and definitely got the valve springs to go with it. Plus I pulled off both heads and set the installed height on every valvespring.. W/ these new springs I'm now able to rev to 6400 .. But my cam's on a 110ls - oughtta make power close to 7,000 I figure. Gonna throw on an ignition box and try swapping coils.. Out of ideas now. LOL

I'm pulling the heads off once again next month for a full out race port and am going to join the solid roller club... Figure it might take a set of R's to make my car rev... I say screw it and pick up power all around.

FWIW, my car seems to be an isolated incident.. No other cars have the same problem w/ this cam that I'm having. ah well.
Old May 14, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
what bothers and impresses me at the same time is your torque curve-
it only varries ~35ft lbs from 3000 all the way to 6000 rpms

i really thought the 306 would pull harder in the upper bands, especailly with such a big exhuast lope

or maybe its just pulling hard down low...

If i had to guess, no offence, but this looks like a hotcam dyno
Well Trey it definitely doesn't sound like a hot cam.

Shawn97Z28,

I am running 4.10's in my Moser 12 bolt. I was shifting at 6800 and the car still ran 12.4@109. I am thinking that if I get back to 26" tires and shift at 6400 then I should have a much longer pull in 4th which should help the MPH.
Old May 14, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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