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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

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That's not how any competent shop would do it. I understand that not all people have access to a lift and you have to do what you have to do. But just think of it this way... how would you feel if you brought your car to the dealer for a fuel pump replacement and you found out that they cut a hole in your car to get to the fuel pump? Would you be happy or would you be pissed? It may not be the wrong way to replace a fuel pump, but it certainly is not the right way to do it.
IF i took my car to a shop and they said it'll be $1000 to drop the tank and replace the fuel pump, or for $300 we can cut a hole and replace the pump and you'll never know we cut the hole. I'd say cut the damn hole. I knew a kid that had a 96 Camaro and a shop charged him over $1k to drop the tank and put the fuel pump on. I cut the hole and had mine done in 4 hrs. 3 of those hrs were waiting for the glue to dry on my fuel bucket.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Z95m6
IF i took my car to a shop and they said it'll be $1000 to drop the tank and replace the fuel pump, or for $300 we can cut a hole and replace the pump and you'll never know we cut the hole. I'd say cut the damn hole. I knew a kid that had a 96 Camaro and a shop charged him over $1k to drop the tank and put the fuel pump on. I cut the hole and had mine done in 4 hrs. 3 of those hrs were waiting for the glue to dry on my fuel bucket.
He got ripped off. It should take no more than 4 hours to r&r a fuel pump. It should cost roughly $500 for labor and the part.

You glued your fuel bucket? Why?
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

Originally Posted by BADST95
That's not how any competent shop would do it. I understand that not all people have access to a lift and you have to do what you have to do. But just think of it this way... how would you feel if you brought your car to the dealer for a fuel pump replacement and you found out that they cut a hole in your car to get to the fuel pump? Would you be happy or would you be pissed? It may not be the wrong way to replace a fuel pump, but it certainly is not the right way to do it.
Actually, my dealer gave me a choice... It was cheaper to cut the hole than to drop the rear, they did a great job, and since I have had the unfortunate experience of replacing the pump four times since then it saved me a bunch of time and money. They put a nice sheet metal cover over it with hinges and rubber seal too.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

Originally Posted by BADST95
He got ripped off. It should take no more than 4 hours to r&r a fuel pump. It should cost roughly $500 for labor and the part.

You glued your fuel bucket? Why?

I had to glue it because when you put the new fuel pump in you have to "crack open" the seams on the bucket to get it open to take the old pump out. Then after you put the new pump in you have to glue the bucket back up. Getting it done in 4 hrs would be flat flying i think. It takes me 4 hrs to swap a rear end by myself. It seems like most people are having to more or less completely take the rear end out or get damn close to get the tank to come out. Then you still have to remove your exhaust, and fight the filler neck. I'd think 4 hrs would have to at least be 2 guys working on it and everything going flawlessly.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

Man, be careful - life is not replaceable, glad you are ok.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

Yes, I thought about it, and did the hole thru floor pan. That was easy except for disconnect of the fuel line. Kind of tight there. Now it's real easy to get @ the tank. I remove my pumps (2) every year the car is put away. I also trashed the stock delivery lines and went with socketless hose and -an fittings from Summit. She flows. It's easy to drain the tank, connect the red wire (located @ frt-right) to batt positive. Pump will run and drain the tank.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

To do a fuel pump R&R is possible in 4hrs. by your self. I can have a rear end out in a hour with a lift, air tools and a tranny jack.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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It's not the fuel in liquid form that's combustable it's the gas form that will kill ya. Glad your ok.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by crazypurgatory
I don't know about putting High Pressure line over it.
At the very least I would brazed the hole in the line.
Or take it off and bring it to a hydraulic shop.
They can fix it there.
I would not trust putting a High Pressure line over it you will just be asking for a fire.


Chris G.
I'm a little lost here.
So people are going to talk about the trap door and the fact that that he's OK that he was smoking at the time and that we are all glad he's OK.
Well I am glade he's OK too.
But I guess it's OK to clamp a high pressure hose over a metal line that has hole in it?
Is this not asking for trouble.
I'm not trying to be a **** but if you clamp a hose over a metal line that is under high pressure it will eventually leak.
Just a matter of time before it will leak and it might catch the car on fire if it hits a hot muffler.


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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

All I can say is the trap door method rocks. It can be easily covered with sheet metal and the carpeting.
If a fuel pump has issues, it takes no time at all to pull it out and repair it.
Guys with F-body convertibles dont have an option like hardtops.
Im all about clean work and professional ways of doing things, but this method is great. The metal is not thick so one does not have to drill that much.
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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

wheres "1racerdude" when you need him most?

glad you are still here man!!
Old Sep 23, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

There are so many reason why you should have died. You must have someone watching over you up there.
Old Sep 23, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Re: Drilled through a fuel line doing the "trap door" method

Just to be clear I dont think he just clamped the hose over the hole. It sounds like he cut the damaged section out and replaced it with hose. If done right this will last as long as the car. I guess there is a chance that if not done right it would be dangerous. Its not that outrageous of a fix though! Allthough he didnt clairify so he could have just covered the hole!
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