Those heads are CNC'd because its quicker for them. There is an abundance of time in the master ports for those cylinder heads as well as the other cylinder heads that will be offered soon. Regardless these heads are killer. These heads were designed to be a high end cylinder head option.


T4P>Ai

 

and no one has seen any other Ai setup come close to abare's setup, either.

you make fun of dyno racing. look at mister 500 rwhp running times and trap speeds that 430-440 rwhp cars in his weight range do.

I figured once bret's name was brought up you advanced deception folk would pile in.

 

No one in your camp can back up your talk so you just keep on coming up with more excuses... classic.

BTW what did your LE 383 run again?

 

What is T4P? Maybe you could enlighten us?

A quick google search turned up only posts from bert on his board or by his harem. Maybe the BRE greatness has streched beyond sub par cams that break stuff , and into porting?

And I sure hope these heads and this setup make more power than "capable of 600hp" like Bret mentioned. Hell, I know of a couple of factory LT1 castings that make more than that NA.

 

Do your own searching to find out who the joint venture is to see who designs the T4P stuff...I am not doing the work for you. You can hate Bret all you want, but the designer of the portwork on these heads and the other heads for T4P has direct racing experience.

 

You need to re-read tireburnins post, he tried finding out who they were but he was unsuccesful since they are a no-name shop.

 

I know where those heads came from.......I'm not getting in the middle of it but I will say they are a serious pc.

I don't care if you like bret or Ai or Lloyd or whoever.....they are some bad *** heads. On the right car that head will go LOW LOW 9's.......not saying this guy will but they are capable of it

 

Lol, I never stated who was the best or anything about preference. I asked for info. When I searched the various boards, only poorly executed "guerrilla marketing" came up. One sweet car with "cleaned up" dart 225s on a 402 that made a blistering 482rwhp!

They could be the best company in the world, with top porters from F1, Nascar, etc ....but I didn't ask that or argue that. There is always someone better and you usually get what you pay for. Where those two factors meet depends on your wallet.

 

**** it...just give the man props for some nice heads.....

482rwhp don't mean crap.......I know guys that can't make 400 rwhp and run in the 9's on motor so who cares. I know people making 1,000 plus on dyno's and can't run a 9.

 

So where are the track results with these heads?

 

They have been on the car for under a week now. You have had your car back together for months wheres your track results?

 

I don't think its a max effort car anyway...if he can't run a 10.50 then he just needs to send em here and I will do something with em

 

You've had your's together for over a year, where are yours? The track just opened back up, but considering my car is built for the kind of track with turns I doubt I'll be at the drag strip anytime soon.

 

"my" camp? there is a cam going in my car that is custom yet not from bret or Ai. I am not part of anyone's camp. I swear you guys have some mailing list to alert eachother of when the name "bret bauer" is dropped in a thread so you can all show up and copy and paste arguments of the past in to this thread.

My LE3 383 ran like **** at the track. I, unlike some people, take the blame for it. that was over 3 years ago and my first engine build ever. I kept fighting issues but got faster and faster every time I went to the track. Unfortunately I made some newbie mistakes and it ultimately cost me my engine. The few pieces of hardware that did not fail were lloyd's heads, bret's cam, and their valvetrain pieces that they suggested.
Impossible, not when bret bauer backs them!

As for the 482 rwhp through a 408 and dart 225s...
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894142
what was not mentioned is that it went through a 4L60E with a yank SS3600 stall, an S60 rear, and heavy torque thrust IIs on what they claim is a stingy dyno. I would bet that would be a 520 rwhp car with a 6 speed and 10 bolt rear dyno queen setup. Not too shabby for what is essentially a mild cam for a 408. Like MDacton said, the important thing are track times. It ran a 7.4 in the 8th all motor with the 346 and it makes MORE power now.

 

I have track results you clown and for the record my cam has been installed for under a year. I don't have an LT1, and I don't bring my dyno numbers up in every thread like you tend to do either. You also seem to be the track results ****, when you can't seem to see the hypocrisy in that. I could care less because i highly doubt you go at least 123 like you would need to go to back up your claims of 30+ more HP with the AI setup, and 80 more HP then your old "crappy ported" heads and 227/. If you do, I will congratulate you like everyone else.