Could the LT1 or LS1 ever compete with the newer muscle cars.. Like the new 07 Camaro w/ the Small Block V8 LS2 400HP .... is there any hope for the LT1 or LS1's?? What do u guys think??

And are the LT1/LS1's even competing with the newer mustangs? (i think so, but i just want opinions)... thank you

 

I smoke the new mustang GTs no problem. I'm not anywhere close to the LS2 though, but the GTO is kinda heavy and it depends on the driver sometimes. We need the SS/TA to get the LS7 or some kind of power adder with the LS2 in the Z28/formy. They need to make the SS/TA more than just an appearance package, IMO, but that's another thread. There are plenty of people that can compete with those cars right now. I have friends that can handle the new C6 Z06 already.

 

Wow! What a question. The answer is a big yes!!! The LT1 was once called the king, Long live the king! The LSX engines have pretty much taken all the spotlight lately. Not to get off topic, But the LT1/LS1 engines will be in automotive muscle car history,

 

no, they never will be able to compete. we all need to throw away our LT1's and buy ls7's...

 

I dont even think the new camaro will run as fast as a bolt on LS1 car ...

It makes 50 horsepower more ( If they go with a LS2 400HP job ) than a stock LS1. It losses more through the drivetrain as it will be IRS.

The fact that it is going to be IRS is going to hurt it for hard launches. This could prove to be weaker than a 10 Bolt. Look at some of the problems the new GTO's are running into. And I would bet that the car is going to be heavier than the LS1 style ... They are all focusing on making the pony-car into the poor mans corvette. Look at the GTO, not too many options there. Fully Loaded, heavy as hell, no choice. The new Camaro may get this same unfortunate turnout. Also, I think I read somewhere that it was going on some chassis that could support AWD if they desired. So im sure that is going to call for more heavy duty front frame rails etc. etc.

Its likely to be like the next GTO. 4000lbs, 400 HP, IRS. It shouldnt be too hard to compete. The new LS7 though ... That hting is just ... Well, BEASTLY.

 

If you ignore weight issues and just look at power, the LS2 is putting down around 340-350 rwhp on average. A heads/cam LT1 or a cam only LS1 will out power that all day long. Lets say the 6.2 or whatever it is that is going to replace the LS2 makes production in the Camaro, probably put down 370ish rwhp just guessing. The H/C LT1, and certainly H/C LS1s will be able to compete w/ that quite well.

It will be quite awesome when the next Z28 or whatever is rolling off the assembly line w/ 350+ rwhp though, that is some serious serious power for a bone stock, emissions compliant, grandma-driveable/everyday liveable car...

 

I'm oh so looking forward to cracking many a new Camaro *** since most new buyers will be oblivious especially when it comes to a lowly LT1...

 

Sure. Any motor can be made to compete with the right amount of money thrown at it.

 

And when its all said and done, our cars still sound better lol.

 

http://www.golenengineservice.com/html/lt1_lt4.html

Definately. Get a crate Lt1 or stroke your lt1 to a 383 and get some monster heads/cam.

Brian

 

Or make a hidden n20 set up. Our cars respond well to a bottle. Then tell them your all stock.

Place bets, take money, mod car.

 

Yep, the fastest cars IMO are big displacement forged motors with a heavy shot of juice. Thats the route I'm taking................

 

Hawk, its scary how fast they can be aint it? Im more a fan of the dual power adder set up like running a boosted low compression motor, and then spraying a small shot on it (150ish) but damn are some of the N20 cars on here flying. There was a guy in N20 tech a couple weeks back that built an all forged 355 ( For a pretty reasonable price too if I remember correctly it was under 7K complete with heads, cam, intake included) that was spraying a 250 or 300 shot on it.

On motor it was running like mid 12's and on the spray like low low 10's. 100% street drivable as well.

It was a beast.

 

O and if you had a LS1, it doest take much to compete:

LS2 and LS3 heads bolt right on. So if you got a set of heads for it at a nice price ( And I would bet that these mass-produced heads could be had at a reasonable price) then got them worked over by someone competent like LE ... You could have some MEAN heads. Throw in a streetable cam, and call it a day.

On a side note, isnt it great to see factory engines once again making 300, 400+ HP engines ... This time with fabulous warrenties, excellent streetability, and easy to mod.