So it would be a lot smarter to do gears and torque converter before the cam? What converters does everyone recommend? I have always heard great things about vigilanties, but thos things are soooooooooo damned expensive (college kid w/budget split between car and paying off tickets)!. Are the vigilanties that good that the extra x00 dollars are justified? Sorry for asking so many questions.

 

If you dont have the money to do it all together then dont half *** it.

Do gears, converter, sub frame connectors, drag radials, and a good set of headers. Then you will be ready for the cam upgrade. Plus all these bolt ons will give you a nice edge on other cars. Many cars are in high 12's with bolt-ons.

I heard some good things about these guys as far as converters go. http://edgeracingconverters.com/ Good prices, and even have a ebay store if Im not wrong.

Mike

 

We all have budgets as well, me I was on a tight one too, you have to look at the overall package. Just adding the cam will get you nothing but dissappointment unless you do the whole kit and caboodle at once. Put the gears in first. Then do the cam and torque convertor.

 

I know that all the components all work together, I have full exhaust and an intake. I think my slp's should suffice. What kind of times do people generally see w 3.73's, full exhaust, cc306 , intake and a 2800 stall converter? Thanks for all the replies

 

Another tough question...depends on your track abilities and overall experience at the track some do high 12's, others do 13's. Some do low 12's e.t.c e.t.c.. Also on your car's condition.

 

what would be the total price for the cam, and all the other stuff to make it work right. like lifters, springs, head work .etc

 

Exactly what everyone else is saying. You need to spend the money and have the right parts. Half doing it, you will regret it, and the car will suffer. Replace springs, lifters, etc. Get gears, at least 3.42s. A 2800 stall would do well, and yes, Vigi is the best.
You get what you pay for.

That CC306 is demanding. If you can't supply it w/ what it needs,
get something tamer, like the hot cam to start off with.

 

That all depends on you. Sometimes you come across good deals, it's the art of the waiting game, I owned my camaro for 2 years now and started with the free mods, went to the headers, then the catback. Then just recently did my heads and cam. Do one thing at a time since you are on a budget and you can't go wrong. Not everyone is made of money and in the long run you will be on top. Start with the gears, you can always find them at a cheap price and your car will be a little quicker just by doing that. Then save up for the cam, springs, and lifters because that will hit you for at least 5-600.00 depending if you get a deal or not. Then go out and get yourself a 2800 stall convertor and DO NOT FORGET TO get a better tranny cooler to go with it!!!
It might take you 6 months or even longer to get all the parts, but when you finally put it together you will be glad as H-E-double hockey stick that you did

 

What everyone says about gears, converter, DR's, headers etc.. is very good do that first then get the cam.

As for a CC306 and a 2800 stall, that's not the best mix. The TQ curve or platue on a CC306 doesn't get down to the 2800rpm range, A bigger stall would be needed to run that cam in a A4 or in your case a different camshaft. Gears and Converter are the best thing to do and from there get the cam to match both of them. Going to a set of 4.10's is going to be better if you want a more aggressive camshaft, where 3.73's are still good but not as optimal. A 2800stall is good but the cam has to fit that where a 3500stall is big, but will like a bigger cam, more RPM and will be faster if all else is matched to it. You have to trade off more things with the bigger stall rather than the bigger gears. So a 4.10 and 2800 might be the best mix for you unless you want to go all out.

Bret

 

The powerband of the 306 is 2500-6500. You want your stall to be above the powerband. 4.10 and a 3500 stall=no streetability.
@70MPH you will be around 3-3500RPM's so forget about driving on the highway. 3.73 and 2800 stall is perfect for a daily driver as long as you get a heavy duty Tranny cooler.

 

How would 3:42s and a 2200stall do? I know it wont be the best in the world..but is it doable? Im getting a CC306 setup soon...

 

I have a 306 cam on a stock tune and it runs, not great... but i think it isnt too bad considering it pulled 348 on a stock heads.

Why stopping at 2200? Im no expert of TQ converters by any means (i have an M6) but i would get a 2800 with lockout. The powerband of the 306 kicks in hardcore around 2500-3000 and pulls all the way to 6500.

-Stu

 

What are you guy's setting your limiter too to make use of the higher power range. And disco, did you get springs, lifters, etc. etc. when you installed the cam? Those are pretty decent numbers with those stock heads and that few of mods.

 

I already have the stall (have had it 2 1/2 years now) I just had boltons at the time and it was great on the stock engine. I cracked the block, and bought another engine (already equipt with a 306) so thats why I dunno if I should just deal with what I have, or upgrade.