15K miles on blue stripes myself but don't know the batch, none broke?

I think at part of this is some guys pushing the parts too hard. Yes Comp switched to an inferior suppier and I do believe that is the main cause but I still believe it was aggravated by improper use.

 

Comp has admitted to the bad batches and had an enormous amount of faulty product make it out their door. The good quality beehives as well as other manufacturers springs springs are engineered to be "pushed hard" when properly installed. IMHO just about anything that raises an engine above the way it came out of the factory is "pushed hard" when you take into account that the original engine design was specd by a reputable multi-billion dollar auto maker.

Now if one has faulty springs and only revs to 5.8K GM red line they may not have a problem. Now if one has faulty springs and revs to 6.2K RPM they may or may not have a problem, this type of usage can be classified as "pushed hard" but does not enter the realm of excessive or abusive.


"Improper use" and "pushed hard" are two entirely different things.

 

I mean guys using them over .600 when they are spec'd for .600. Or even just coming close to that with aggressive lobes and expecting to get 10K+ out of them.

 

Why does .010" over .600" lift matter?

What consititutes a aggressive lobe?

I'm asking because I KNOW but I want to hear what the average guy seems to think about it, that is most likely wrong because they hear it from uninformed sources.

Bret

 

When the Beehives first came out they were spec'd for .625 max lift. I'm running them with a 605/622 lift camshaft, and still have .093 clearance before coil bind.

 

OK, I'll give it a shot. Maybe we can all learn something here.

My camshaft specs are 224/230 605/622 (1.6). It has aggressive lobes because of the low duration and high lift?

 

I'm gonna let this one sit for a while but that seems to be the common answer to it. Hopefully people will learn something after this is all said and done.

Bret

 

I'm looking forward to the answer Bret.

 

I think short duration and high lift is one element but if you dig deep enough you can get duration numbers at multiple lift points which really shows what a lobe is doing better.

The above mentioned cam is exactly what I mean.

 

behive is a pc. of crap

I don't see why people run alot of the stuff they do and it simply does not perform. Alot of these head/cam cars running 115 is frikkin WEAK any way you want to look at it I call it sad....... I would not run a behive on my lawnmower but then again I'm not the smartest guy you will ever meet either

 

Well it looks like a physics lesson is going to be needed here.... and this comes from a guy who got a D in physics in college!

I will say that when guys don't go quick/fast down the track it's a lot of car problems. The fast impala guys (Dwayne being #4 in the 350-355 cube class) all have the same good parts on their CAR getting the cars to do that. (#1,#2,#3 all have my cams though) None of them would go fast if they didn't have the cars setup I don't care if they had god do heads and cams for them. People forget the power is only part of the equation, believe me when I can get a circle track guy another 20-30hp on a already top notch motor and he still doesn't win, it's not the motors fault. Drivers and cars are a big part of it.

Bret

 

I kind of figured that. Problem is if the spring is not highly stressed then it's not hard on anything if done correctly.

Bret

 

Hey Bret,

How about you get my motor out of your avator and call me? Ignoring me is not helping the situation.

 

Avator?....... avAtar mayber? Motors only belong to those who pay for them.

 

Bret

I have asked you a few times to set up a pickup date, to send the product COD or use an Escrow service. Seems a little fishy to me that I've sent you over $25K and you won't send the motor COD when the bill is roughly $6500 + COD Fees + Shipping. In addition to that you won't set up a day and time to pick up the motor.


No offense but after the things you have done you are not a trustworthy person.