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Old 04-29-2003, 09:41 AM
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Yea, it eventually comes to that for us all. I'm hoping to push the bolt on as much as I can before then....but, you just never know.
you and me both man...but the CAM has gotta happen, I just can't wait....in fact after the longtubes this weekend, it's gears the next weekend and a cam 3 weeks from now then I'm gonna behave ......for a few months.
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:46 AM
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you and me both man...but the CAM has gotta happen, I just can't wait....in fact after the longtubes this weekend, it's gears the next weekend and a cam 3 weeks from now then I'm gonna behave ......for a few months.
Yea, I've got a CC305 cam sittin' in the garage, but I've decided to delay that thing and just do the rest of the valve train (new springs, lifters and RRs). I have a personal vendetta to settle and once that's taken care of, I'll toss the 305 in there...or maybe sell it and get something else?
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Old 04-29-2003, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by LT1derful
Yea, I've got a CC305 cam sittin' in the garage, but I've decided to delay that thing and just do the rest of the valve train (new springs, lifters and RRs). I have a personal vendetta to settle and once that's taken care of, I'll toss the 305 in there...or maybe sell it and get something else?
I'm doing the XE 230/236 or maybe the 306. My understanding is the 306 gives you a better top end and higher dyno numbers overall but the 230/236 gives you more power over the entire bandwidth...I'm still researching myself.
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Old 04-29-2003, 12:58 PM
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Get rid of the cc 305 ????

Why would you wanna do that??? Lokk at what I am doing with cc305, w stock stall......It is fun and not too much for daily driver....TA 1
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I really don't have all that much trouble with streetability either...
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:04 PM
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I was talking about untouched stock LT1 heads, no porting, gasket matching, etc. I understand that suspension is going to be a must along with tires, but I didnt want to have to put in stuff like 10pt cages, racing seats, k-member, and so on.

Hey Ken, is thiere still tuning that needs to be done with that car? You switch from the hotcam to the 230/236 111 with ported heads and only droped .11 tenths of a sec. Something doesnt sound right. Or did you do that 11.80 with hotcam and ported heads? I guess you might pickup some if you swap for a little more gear. Is that what is holding you back?
Yup gears are holding me back for sure. I need another 400-500 rpm.

The 11.80 was done in very good DA (No Problem Raceway) plus at a track that hooks. (I was cutting mid to low 1.5's all day long)
Typically the car would do 12.0's to 12.1's at my home track with the 60's in the mid to low 1.6's.

To give some some comparison's I'm running 11.70's in very crappy DA's and 60's in the 1.6's so when it's time to go back to (NPR) in November I should be in the mid to low 11's. The car has gaind at least .4 tenths since the cam / head swap.

The 11.80 was done with a LT4HotCam and Un-Touched Heads and with really good weather.
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:06 PM
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Mine is a '93 with a 700 transmission= No stall problems.

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Old 04-29-2003, 01:26 PM
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Re: Get rid of the cc 305 ????

Originally posted by 94 TA TT2S
Why would you wanna do that??? Lokk at what I am doing with cc305, w stock stall......It is fun and not too much for daily driver....TA 1
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I really don't have all that much trouble with streetability either...
You're right, I'll probably keep it and install it JUST after I accomplish the task at hand. There's a lil' talk goin on behind my back, so I'm gonna beat my friend's cammed LT1 in my car without a cam; then, I'll install the cc305 for insurance,
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:33 PM
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Hey Ken

So you are saying that the 3.42's worked better with the hotcam setup as opposed to say 3.73's.....With me having cc305 it would be close to what you had with the hot cam....what made the most difference in your et's with the hot cam?????
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:38 PM
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Ken and Frank!!!

How do you guys launch with the stalls??? Do you flash them or do you all stall them up???? I have seen your videos ken and its hard to tell whether you stall up or just flash....
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Canton racer I run Mickey Thompson dot skinnies on my car daily and usually run Hossier QTP for my Sunday rides and to work. I only work a couple of miles from home. If I'm going on a long trip I put my street radial rear tires. I never said that is was easy to run 11's with stockheads just that I do it. My car and I are now 90#'s lighter than when I ran 11.42. Car lost 50#s and I lost 40#s. I think with good weather and a few tricks that I can now run 11.20's want to bet? Frank95z

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Old 04-29-2003, 02:20 PM
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Re: Hey Ken

Originally posted by 94 TA TT2S
So you are saying that the 3.42's worked better with the hotcam setup as opposed to say 3.73's.....With me having cc305 it would be close to what you had with the hot cam....what made the most difference in your et's with the hot cam?????
That's the million dollar question, I wish I would have gone to the 3.73's and found out.

Frank - Dang boy, you losing 40# yourself, you are going to dry up next to nothing. I need to loose 40# myselfl.

As for me launching, I stall it up to about 2300 and let em rip.

Here is a video of Franks pass I took of him at NPR in November of last year.

Frank95Z 11.69 Pass
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Old 04-29-2003, 02:30 PM
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94ta I just noticed your post. I raise rpm to about 1000 rpms with my Vig3200 and stab it. Converter flashes to about 3800. I've tried all methods and that is what works for my combo. Frank95z
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Good to hear you lost 40 lbs... that is always good...
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Old 04-29-2003, 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
frank-
would you mind giving us a parts list for your trans and stuff again!
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It's all on my web page...Just click "Stats and Specifications"

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:51 PM
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a guy on ls1.com is running high 11's with his lt1 stock heads and I think stock cam. He's running 1.7 rockers to give him more lift.
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