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1 5/8 Primary Headers

Old Nov 28, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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1 5/8 Primary Headers

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What are those headers considered? 1 5/8 Primary JBA Headers...? Mid length or Shorties? And on top of that, are they quality headers? Thanks

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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I also forgot.. lets say money wasn't a object, would it be worth the trouble and effort going for Hooker LT's?

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P.S. rwhp increase is like over 15 or something for those JBA right? And like 20-25 for the Hooker LT's?
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I haven't heard much good about JBA headers. I did ALOT of research before I bought my MACs. Apparantly, the research paid off...Mine runs pretty good with them. The MAC headers are 1 5/8" mid lengths.

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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I like my Macs, but if money is no object, go with some coated long tubes and a custom Y pipe.
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Well, how much does that cost? And all the specs on it... hp and torque gain, sound... :-)

Custom Y Pipe? That sounds real expensive... L0L

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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You wont get a whole lot of power w/ em, there mostly made in shorties but there are mids too that size, like said before, your better saving a little longer and getting the long tubes
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Why does everyone push longtubes? Do you all like the idea of LOSING top end HP?

Read the sig folks...12.0 in crappy weather with a stock 95,000 mile bottom end @ full weight? There's ALOT of LT cars out there not running that good...And...Mine still has all the emissions BS hooked up on the MACs.

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by 12SCNDZ
Why does everyone push longtubes? Do you all like the idea of LOSING top end HP?

Read the sig folks...12.0 in crappy weather with a stock 95,000 mile bottom end @ full weight? There's ALOT of LT cars out there not running that good...And...Mine still has all the emissions BS hooked up on the MACs.

Frank
You can get all the emission BS with JetHot longtubes. If you're building up a car, LTs will do best. Otherwise, stock motor... not really sure. Losing HP at top-end with LTs?? Defiantly not! Losing torque on the bottom-end, more like.
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So Hooker LT's are mostly for Low End launch Power but at the sacrifice at High end power?

So Mid Lengths are the way to be you think? Because of emissions and power purposes?

Its just the specific type of headers that the JBA's are? That aren't that good? L0L

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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:54 PM
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So Hooker LT's are mostly for Low End launch Power but at the sacrifice at High end power?
Other way around.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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So MID LENGTH are for Low End power at the cost of High End power while LONG TUBE have both?

Do Mid Length have enough power in the low to compete with Long Tube? Or are Long Tubes just more powerful throughout every gear.

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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How do you figure you'll lose any power going to LT's vs. the stock manifolds?

A custom Y pipe isn't that bad, usually about $100 bucks or so. A little more if you want to have it coated.

Go with the long tubes, they're a bit of a pain to install, but they work better than the shorty headers.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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Aight... that sounds good. Which are the best Long Tubes around? SLP I always hear about... Hookers as well. Is there a different in hp or sound? How much of a hp gain do mid lengths give opposed to long tubes?

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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1 5/8 - higher rpm power and torque
1 3/4 - lower rpm power and torque

Short tubes - low end
Long tubes - top end

I dont know of any longtubes that are 1 5/8, cuase that would give some nice top end, which we need more of, not bottom end, we got plenty of that.

Short tube and mid length headers I'v seen come in both primary sizes, not every brand though.

Either way you go, you'll improve your times.

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by $hawn
1 5/8 - higher rpm power and torque
1 3/4 - lower rpm power and torque

Short tubes - low end
Long tubes - top end

I dont know of any longtubes that are 1 5/8, cuase that would give some nice top end, which we need more of, not bottom end, we got plenty of that.

Short tube and mid length headers I'v seen come in both primary sizes, not every brand though.

Either way you go, you'll improve your times.


You've got it completely backwards. It is entirely the other way around.

And to the guys who say LTs sacrifice top end power: Maybe over AS&Ms 1 3/4" midlengths, but they are going to make MORE top end HP than your 1 5/8" primary midlengths.

Seriously, someone more knowledgable PLEASE step in here and back me up.

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