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Old 03-02-2006, 09:46 PM
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It is at std bore right now with no ridge and cross-hatch to the top of the bore, the motor had maybe 20k miles when it was crashed. Yeah I'm kinda with LR on this one, I'm even scared to go +.030". These blocks like to crack up from the outside main bolt up through the bore where it is thinest...that would be only .075" per side.

The scary thing is that there appears to be very little if any core shift, as the reading were very consistant and pretty even from side to side and front to back, these are just very thin-wall castings. But like I have said before my LTx experiance is limited, so if people out there are sonic testing these things in the same range and having no issues Personally I don't like seeing any less than .150"

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It is at std bore right now with no ridge and cross-hatch to the top of the bore, the motor had maybe 20k miles when it was crashed. Yeah I'm kinda with LR on this one, I'm even scared to go +.030". These blocks like to crack up from the outside main bolt up through the bore where it is thinest...that would be only .075" per side.

The scary thing is that there appears to be very little if any core shift, as the reading were very consistant and pretty even from side to side and front to back, these are just very thin-wall castings. But like I have said before my LTx experiance is limited, so if people out there are sonic testing these things in the same range and having no issues Personally I don't like seeing any less than .150"

.150 at the thinnest point is what I shoot for and would like .200 an a HP build.
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would .045 or .050 over be any better than an .060 as far as trust and durability
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ok. so if its bored .060 without a sonic check will it show to the eye whether its too thin or not to use?
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ok. so if its bored .060 without a sonic check will it show to the eye whether its too thin or not to use?
Not necessarily,but it will show ya after it's been run.
There isn't much way to get out of sonic check if ya are going BIG(over .030)
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:22 PM
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what will happen after it's run? i mean specifically. the shop told me they could try the .060 overbore and see what happens. he said he can normally tell by inspecting it if it will be too thin or not. i'm not too worried about cooling issues... the car runs cold as it is....but i don't want it falling apart on me. btw, how much is a sonic check?
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what will happen after it's run? i mean specifically. the shop told me they could try the .060 overbore and see what happens. he said he can normally tell by inspecting it if it will be too thin or not. i'm not too worried about cooling issues... the car runs cold as it is....but i don't want it falling apart on me. btw, how much is a sonic check?

They take one of these and check the thickness of the metal,kinda like sonar.
It will cave in or crack if it's too thin. The car running cool now don't count with thin wall's, it WILL run hot.

I charge $150.00 some may be cheaper if they are doing your machine work.


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i guess i need to steal that from you. i was running .040 before, so i doubt .020 more would make me go from 150-170 to hot.
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i guess i need to steal that from you. i was running .040 before, so i doubt .020 more would make me go from 150-170 to hot.
If it gets thin(less than .150) it WILL run hot.
Read the post M1 just made a couple up.
There is no way on earth to tell by looking if it is too thin. Ya will damn sure know it when ya fire it up.
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That's the one I have.

I'm kinda pissed at you LR, you outbid me on that mitutoyo wood box LOL
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That's the one I have.

I'm kinda pissed at you LR, you outbid me on that mitutoyo wood box LOL
Sorry 'bout that, didn't know it was you.
It's not for sale though that's a $100+ box for $36.00
I just bought a box for my 6 B&S intramike's and it was $235.00,bare box.
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how much is it for a sonic check?
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Old 03-02-2006, 11:29 PM
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how much is it for a sonic check?

A half way decent one is 450.00-500.00 dollars and then the probe that comes with it won't do all the jobs so another 100.00 for a smaller one.

Ya can find them on eBay but ya better do research to see what they are and what they do. Some are only capable of measuring thin stuff and ya don't need one that stores 100,000 measurements.
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Yeah my budget is wiped out, so that was a hopefull bid, have spent about 2k in the last month on new digital outside and depth mics, plus a callies crank and couple sets of rods.
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Yep,know about the budget thing.
I went to a cabinet maker here and took him my old box and he wanted 250 to duplicate it, but man just for a wooden box,Sheeeee
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