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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Cool Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

Wow, i'm surprised at how many places there are online for camaro's

Please excuse my noobness...but I just do not understand all the tech talk, haha.

I was looking around for rims etc, and I came across the following,

http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/...ims_008?full=1
http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/...ert_011?full=1


What is the name of those? And where can I buy them (maybe online?) (the brake lights)


Also, what can I do about mufflers? Any nice real loud ones? Haha.
well, not mufflers but like:
http://videos.camaroz28.com/video/ED...CF74ABC261.htm

And if anyone can point me in the direction of these:

http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/.../indiglogauges
http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/...terior/indiglo

That would be great.

Thanks in advance.

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Re: Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

Originally Posted by Xvirus
Wow, i'm surprised at how many places there are online for camaro's

Please excuse my noobness...but I just do not understand all the tech talk, haha.

I was looking around for rims etc, and I came across the following,

http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/...ims_008?full=1
http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/...ert_011?full=1


What is the name of those? And where can I buy them (maybe online?) (the brake lights)


Also, what can I do about mufflers? Any nice real loud ones? Haha.

And if anyone can point me in the direction of these:

http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/.../indiglogauges

That would be great.

Thanks in advance.

I think the first think you are refering to is tail light blackouts, you can pick those up at any autoparts store or from supporting members on this board.

The second thing mufflers, best cheapest thing is a exhaust cutout, then you have the quiet of stock and at a flip of the switch you have LOUD to scare those ricers. you can get a cutout for $25-35 or an electric cutout for $150. Both I say got electric cutout cause it becomes a pain in the butt to get under the car to open and close the cutout all the time, even tho I drive around with my open all the time. Those you can get from supporting members like QTP or others

the third thing the gauges Im not sure about
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 94_PatriotRed_Z
I think the first think you are refering to is tail light blackouts, you can pick those up at any autoparts store or from supporting members on this board.

The second thing mufflers, best cheapest thing is a exhaust cutout, then you have the quiet of stock and at a flip of the switch you have LOUD to scare those ricers. you can get a cutout for $25-35 or an electric cutout for $150. Both I say got electric cutout cause it becomes a pain in the butt to get under the car to open and close the cutout all the time, even tho I drive around with my open all the time. Those you can get from supporting members like QTP or others

the third thing the gauges Im not sure about
Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

Just a question to everyone out there, if you had say $3,000 to put down on your camaro, what would you do, *saying it was stock*, not what you've already done?

Also, I've been looking for non-stock rims, and I have found out that the following would work,

http://americanracing.com/wheels/det...lloy&section=N

I have yet to see anyone else online or anywhere with them. Is that for a reason?

My car is a 96.

Thanks
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Re: Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

Originally Posted by Xvirus
Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

Just a question to everyone out there, if you had say $3,000 to put down on your camaro, what would you do, *saying it was stock*, not what you've already done?

Also, I've been looking for non-stock rims, and I have found out that the following would work,

I have yet to see anyone else online or anywhere with them. Is that for a reason?

My car is a 96.

Thanks
Here's a link from another board that covers the basics of modding very well... and made me laugh till my eyes watered in a few spots:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361959

You haven't seen those rims on a f-body for the simple fact there are only two possible rims that are allowed as upgrades over stock. Pick either the Torque Thrust II rims OR something that came on a 4th, 5th, or 6th gen Corvette. Even GM recognizes this which is why the 98' Camaro SS came with rims from the early 90's ZR-1 vette. They later came out with Camaro specific rims which people replace with either the ZR-1 rims or something off a Corvette.

Just kidding about the rims (sort of). Go with what you like best though I would recommend getting a compromise between nice looks and light weight. Why blow money on modifying the car while strapping 18" Chrome plated anchors on each corner? Not only do heavy rims add a lot of mass to the car as a whole, they also take a lot more power to make them spin up to speed. Your suspension will also have to work much harder with heavier rims. Corvette rims are usually a nice compromise which no doubt explains their popularity.
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Re: Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

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Here's a link from another board that covers the basics of modding very well... and made me laugh till my eyes watered in a few spots:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361959

You haven't seen those rims on a f-body for the simple fact there are only two possible rims that are allowed as upgrades over stock. Pick either the Torque Thrust II rims OR something that came on a 4th, 5th, or 6th gen Corvette. Even GM recognizes this which is why the 98' Camaro SS came with rims from the early 90's ZR-1 vette. They later came out with Camaro specific rims which people replace with either the ZR-1 rims or something off a Corvette.

Just kidding about the rims (sort of). Go with what you like best though I would recommend getting a compromise between nice looks and light weight. Why blow money on modifying the car while strapping 18" Chrome plated anchors on each corner? Not only do heavy rims add a lot of mass to the car as a whole, they also take a lot more power to make them spin up to speed. Your suspension will also have to work much harder with heavier rims. Corvette rims are usually a nice compromise which no doubt explains their popularity.
I never once thought about the weight of them.

What about lighter black rims? I really had no options in 16", so that's why I figured I would go 17". I actually had people tell me rims from an iroc would work on my 96, so I got them, got them all ready, put them on, and then what the )$#^*$ they rubbed and that went to heck. So I have the stock back on now, but they are all oxodized (? is that correct?) because the previous owner didn't do crap in terms of care.

So is there anything in 16", and black? If not, light and 17"?

My camaro is red with black stripes and has a black convertable....so trying to stay with the black theme if you know what I mean.

I was given this option as well:

http://americanracing.com/wheels/det...lloy&section=N

and

http://americanracing.com/wheels/det...lloy&section=N
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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If you're after performance, here's something else to think about. You probably got 16x8s on it now, right? Then why go with a narrower wheel? Personally, i love the look of the later SS 10-spoke wheels and that's what i bought. You can get them used for cheap, plus they're 17x9 so i can get some wider meats on 'em.
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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That's odd. I've always heard the 3rd gen rims fit fine on a 4th gen, but the 3rd gen guys need spacers to run 4th gen rims. Are you sure you didn't mix up the IROC rims and put the rears on the front (or vice versa)? The front and back rims on a third gen have different offsets whereas the 4th gen rims are all the same offset.

My personal preference is the first rim you linked too... with the black center. I used to love chrome wheels with a simple 5 spoke design, but I feel chrome has been been beaten to death the past several years. 17"s came stock on the SS and WS6/Firehawks, so they will certainly fit and look decent. 18"s would probably look decent whereas 19"s would be pushing it too far IMHO if they even fit.

By going with 17"s you will also have better success squeezing in the bigger brakes. You may even want to consider going with the 17"x9" rims on the front, 17"x11" in the rear. Many of the guys who go with the ZR-1 rims do this- it's the same combo used on the ZR-1 vettes plus they fill out the back a little nicer. The 9" width in the back doesn't quite fill out the fenders as nicely. On the down side: you will not be able to rotate them front-to-back simply by swapping them around. You would instead have to unmount the tires and swap side-to-side. Also the rear tires will be more expensive. Sizes used on ZR-1 rims are: 275/40R17 and 315/35R17 if I'm not mistaken. Tires of this size not only look great but they would also provide you with tons of grip. The rims you pointed out in 17" are only available in 8" width which may be a concern if you start bumping power up significantly. If you drop in a head/cam package soon, I'm sure the 8" wide rear tires will no longer give you adequate grip to hook up.

Find the guys on this and other boards that are making some real power and ask them what their experiences have taught them. Then use their advice to reach your goals by buying each part once. Modifying your car is a series of chasing the weakest link and upgrading it until something else becomes the weakest point. If you have a well-designed plan and buy the parts one time accordingly you will save a ton of effort and money in reaching that goal. Then your goal will likely change... but it's still cheaper than chasing an undefined goal!

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Re: Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

Originally Posted by 98supersport
That's odd. I've always heard the 3rd gen rims fit fine on a 4th gen, but the 3rd gen guys need spacers to run 4th gen rims. Are you sure you didn't mix up the IROC rims and put the rears on the front (or vice versa)? The front and back rims on a third gen have different offsets whereas the 4th gen rims are all the same offset.

My personal preference is the first rim you linked too... with the black center. I used to love chrome wheels with a simple 5 spoke design, but I feel chrome has been been beaten to death the past several years. 17"s came stock on the SS and WS6/Firehawks, so they will certainly fit and look decent. 18"s would probably look decent whereas 19"s would be pushing it too far IMHO if they even fit.

By going with 17"s you will also have better success squeezing in the bigger brakes. You may even want to consider going with the 17"x9" rims on the front, 17"x11" in the rear. Many of the guys who go with the ZR-1 rims do this- it's the same combo used on the ZR-1 vettes plus they fill out the back a little nicer. The 9" width in the back doesn't quite fill out the fenders as nicely. On the down side: you will not be able to rotate them front-to-back simply by swapping them around. You would instead have to unmount the tires and swap side-to-side. Also the rear tires will be more expensive. Sizes used on ZR-1 rims are: 275/40R17 and 315/35R17 if I'm not mistaken. Tires of this size not only look great but they would also provide you with tons of grip. The rims you pointed out in 17" are only available in 8" width which may be a concern if you start bumping power up significantly. If you drop in a head/cam package soon, I'm sure the 8" wide rear tires will no longer give you adequate grip to hook up.

Find the guys on this and other boards that are making some real power and ask them what their experiences have taught them. Then use their advice to reach your goals by buying each part once. Modifying your car is a series of chasing the weakest link and upgrading it until something else becomes the weakest point. If you have a well-designed plan and buy the parts one time accordingly you will save a ton of effort and money in reaching that goal. Then your goal will likely change... but it's still cheaper than chasing an undefined goal!
I said it wrong.

Yes, the iroc rims fit, infact:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9...50041093ez.jpg

Noob photo but whatever.....

other:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6...50042110zu.jpg

The rims fit fine, the tires rubbed. Every bump, hit the back because they were pushed out farther, and then you couldn't make turns at all either.

So I couldn't bust up my tires (when they hit, they hit HARD and left huge gashes in the tires), also sounded horrible.

>.<

PS. The hot car in the background is for pulling the seadoos.

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Hmmm... that's a shame. The IROC rims look great on your car. It looks like you could lower the profile of the tires and make it work? I forgot how high profile the third gen tires were- sorta like truck tires

wdtiger mention the SS 10-spoke wheels used on the 2002 SS... they would retain the look of the IROCs with the silver and black accents. If you haven't seen them, here's a link:

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/5150.JPG

You could alternatively get some ZR-1 rims and have the centers painted or powder coated black. The Grand Sport Vette (C5) came with rims like that.

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/0411vet_96gs/
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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mufflers? what mufflers?

just go to an exhaust shop weld in a Y pipe and stick a glass pack or bullet in front of the rear axle.

Sounds great IMO search Dynomouth
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Re: Wow i'm new, loads of noob questions.

Suggestion for the "noob"....

First, wlecome!

Its a good idea to post each question as an individual topic on the forum set up for that topic. Also a good idea to include a "signature" with the year of your car, model, tranny, major mods, etc. That way people can give you more specific answers.

For example, on the wheels, you might want to poke around on the "Wheels and Tires" forum for some ideas. There are almost daily posts of photos of really great looking setups. The C6 wheels are getting a lot of play. Post your "wheels" question there

For the indiglo gauges and blackouts, search the "Appearance" forum, then post your question there.

Have fun!
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Hmmm... that's a shame. The IROC rims look great on your car. It looks like you could lower the profile of the tires and make it work? I forgot how high profile the third gen tires were- sorta like truck tires

wdtiger mention the SS 10-spoke wheels used on the 2002 SS... they would retain the look of the IROCs with the silver and black accents. If you haven't seen them, here's a link:

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/5150.JPG

You could alternatively get some ZR-1 rims and have the centers painted or powder coated black. The Grand Sport Vette (C5) came with rims like that.

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/0411vet_96gs/

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah, they did look good.

The lower profile would not have helped. Looked into that. The back could have been maybe fixed by airride, but not the front turning issue.

So,

http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/5150.JPG

Would fit?

I was never told that they would, are you sure the offset/bolt pattern/whatever would work?

I would get
http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccpix/5150.JPG

In a heartbeat if I knew they would work and are 16"


I went into a shop, and asked about 16" and 17", like 3 people said stay off of 17", because you could f up the rim (easily) with potholes?

How much truth is to that? I personally think it's bogus.


Thank you to everyone for the replies, great forum.


And i'll try Injuneer
Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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If you really want a good healthy loud sound, I have the SLP Loud Mouth on my SS and in my opinion I love it! It has a very deep open sound that doesnt "pop" like glass packs when you are really gettin after it. All it has is a resonator and no muffler. Plus its all stainless steel so you really cant go wrong. Like I said its just my opinion. Im sure there are others who would rather die before they would buy from SLP but they do have some good stuff. The 2 mods that I have done to my SS are SLP parts, Lid and Exhaust. Dropped my ET from 13.85@103 to 13.08@107 with an automatic. The only 2 things left to do is a Y-Pipe and headers and thats as far as Im gonna go with it.
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