The Worst Design Flaw in a Camaro!!
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From: Denver, Colorado
I don't know if its just me, but my @%# nose cone seems to have a massive magnet in it, just in the year I've owned it its been hit (not my fault) FOUR times! I park waaaaay the hell out in the parking lot too. Maybe this is something just about firebirds, but DAMN its annoying.
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From: LSU -- Geaux Tigers!
Originally posted by TonyJ
The headlights really suck...
The jack points spread the fender panels out...
The fuel pump access and not being in a sump or something to keep it cool when the tank gets low...
Weep hole directly over the opti has to be number 1...
Cooling system (too much to list)...
Map straps on visors that instantly over-stretch and hang loose...
Plastic molding on windshield with poor sealant that comes loose and flaps in the wind...
Stupid slow passenger electric window...
Of course I still love it more than any other car I've ever owned...
The headlights really suck...
The jack points spread the fender panels out...
The fuel pump access and not being in a sump or something to keep it cool when the tank gets low...
Weep hole directly over the opti has to be number 1...
Cooling system (too much to list)...
Map straps on visors that instantly over-stretch and hang loose...
Plastic molding on windshield with poor sealant that comes loose and flaps in the wind...
Stupid slow passenger electric window...
Of course I still love it more than any other car I've ever owned...
Another reason why the f-body needs subframes 
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I look at them as obsticles......like driving at night and you can only see 20 feet in front of you
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette(who wants a car that starts every time you crank her over.....lol)....these flaws are what brings us together. We know the stuggles that each of us go through just to keep these cars going. The Camaro has always been a name you knew and it still is. The Camaro has always been a group to stick together.....these flaws bring us even closer. We are here now and will be here in the future......they cannot get rid of us. I will be changing optis 30 years from know (if i can still get them).
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette(who wants a car that starts every time you crank her over.....lol)....these flaws are what brings us together. We know the stuggles that each of us go through just to keep these cars going. The Camaro has always been a name you knew and it still is. The Camaro has always been a group to stick together.....these flaws bring us even closer. We are here now and will be here in the future......they cannot get rid of us. I will be changing optis 30 years from know (if i can still get them).
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Originally posted by "White Knight"
I look at them as obsticles......like driving at night and you can only see 20 feet in front of you
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette(who wants a car that starts every time you crank her over.....lol)....these flaws are what brings us together. We know the stuggles that each of us go through just to keep these cars going. The Camaro has always been a name you knew and it still is. The Camaro has always been a group to stick together.....these flaws bring us even closer. We are here now and will be here in the future......they cannot get rid of us. I will be changing optis 30 years from know (if i can still get them).
I look at them as obsticles......like driving at night and you can only see 20 feet in front of you
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette(who wants a car that starts every time you crank her over.....lol)....these flaws are what brings us together. We know the stuggles that each of us go through just to keep these cars going. The Camaro has always been a name you knew and it still is. The Camaro has always been a group to stick together.....these flaws bring us even closer. We are here now and will be here in the future......they cannot get rid of us. I will be changing optis 30 years from know (if i can still get them).
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From: Vermilion, Ohio USA
OK I said to myself I wasn't gonna post but DAMN quit pickin on the damn car.
1. Optispark, optispark, optispark. Thats all I EVER hear I got almost 100,000 miles outta mine and the car started running ROUGH so I changed it.. am I the only one that finds that INCREDIBLE!!!! remember buying cap, rotor, wires, and plugs every 10-15,000? Now granted mine was vented from the factory
2. The "HUMP" on the passenger side. WHO CARES, I Never sit there, and it's not like it's a mountain, It's 2 inches of space, Near the seat unless your 4ft tall, it's not gonna be a problem
3. Headlights, , , Shame on you you pontiac drivers comes with the territory
these so called flaws I call "Features" and remember F-Bods (IMO) are the last american muscle cars Bad *** attitude there not supposed to be BMW's !!!
don't be hatin'
1. Optispark, optispark, optispark. Thats all I EVER hear I got almost 100,000 miles outta mine and the car started running ROUGH so I changed it.. am I the only one that finds that INCREDIBLE!!!! remember buying cap, rotor, wires, and plugs every 10-15,000? Now granted mine was vented from the factory
2. The "HUMP" on the passenger side. WHO CARES, I Never sit there, and it's not like it's a mountain, It's 2 inches of space, Near the seat unless your 4ft tall, it's not gonna be a problem
3. Headlights, , , Shame on you you pontiac drivers comes with the territory
these so called flaws I call "Features" and remember F-Bods (IMO) are the last american muscle cars Bad *** attitude there not supposed to be BMW's !!!
don't be hatin'
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From: Ontario, Canada
Originally posted by 107
Basically if they are set up properly you should be able to watch a car come up in your rearview mirror,
Basically if they are set up properly you should be able to watch a car come up in your rearview mirror,
All the other features about my Z28 reported here, if they weren't there, I would think I'm driving my wife's Avenger.
Damm, I love this car.
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From: Flower Mound, TX USA
Originally posted by RickS
my complaints are:
halogen headlights arent that bright.
gas cap door dosent lock (had to get a locking gas cap)
Other than that i love my car.
If you think the 4th gens had bad build quality, u should have drove my old 3rd gen. The dash would jump up and down at speeds of 80+mph. the roofboard would sag worse and worse every summer day, the seats tore easy, fold up button on the back of the seats would break, No cupholder whatsoever, no glovebox, horrible ac system controls that hissed at you, front tires rubbed on sharp turns with little 225's
the 4th gens are built soo much more snug than the 3rd gens. Dont get me wrong tho, i still love the look of a nice clean 3rd.
my complaints are:
halogen headlights arent that bright.
gas cap door dosent lock (had to get a locking gas cap)
Other than that i love my car.
If you think the 4th gens had bad build quality, u should have drove my old 3rd gen. The dash would jump up and down at speeds of 80+mph. the roofboard would sag worse and worse every summer day, the seats tore easy, fold up button on the back of the seats would break, No cupholder whatsoever, no glovebox, horrible ac system controls that hissed at you, front tires rubbed on sharp turns with little 225's
the 4th gens are built soo much more snug than the 3rd gens. Dont get me wrong tho, i still love the look of a nice clean 3rd.
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From: sarasota, fl
Originally posted by "White Knight"
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette
The Flaws of our cars. It's what makes us proud to own an F-body...........it's the reason we own the F-body and not the Corvette
lmfao....yeah right.....i just couldnt afford to buy a new house and a vette at the same time, but you can bet your butt that ill trade my fbody in a millisecond to get a C5 when i can.
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when it comes to washing the car is is annoying how water always collects:
-under the spoiler (the seam), which runs either inside the car or onto the tailights.
-in the 'troughs' next to the hatch unleash onto the rear of the. car the first time you take off.
-in the mirror casings.
-on the cracks of the side markers.
-in the cracks of the turn signals.
I have adapted to using technique to overcome many of these, but sometimes it seems the water coming from a single crack is endless/infinite
On the plus side, I dont hate anything about my car
-under the spoiler (the seam), which runs either inside the car or onto the tailights.
-in the 'troughs' next to the hatch unleash onto the rear of the. car the first time you take off.
-in the mirror casings.
-on the cracks of the side markers.
-in the cracks of the turn signals.
I have adapted to using technique to overcome many of these, but sometimes it seems the water coming from a single crack is endless/infinite
On the plus side, I dont hate anything about my car
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I have 2 95 f-bodies, Z28 and T/A love them both and yes the do have problems but when something goes wrong you know how to fix them due to past experiences and reading this board. These days the LT1 f-bodies are getting very cheap to purchase. You could buy a '90 GT stang and pay more for it and it would definately be ragged out. I would rather buy a decent f-body that may need some work but will cost you less than the GT. For the lesser priced f-body you will get better performance, better handling, more comfortable interior, better sound system, and a car that looks like a '90's car not a car that started its life in 1979 and has only had minor upgrades, 4 lug wheels, rear drum brakes, and a weak T5 transmission.
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Re: The Worst Design Flaw in a Camaro!!
Originally posted by mycarisfasterthanyours
The worst design flaw has to be the way they designed the shape/spacing of the T56 and surrounding area. It is freaking rediculous. I spent half the day literally wrestling with my transmission, first to get it out, then to get it back in, to no avail. This was with a tranny jack, and a floor jack. Could they have maybe designed it so that we had an extra 1/2 inch around the belhousing, so that there is room to move the tranny high enough to line up the input shaft, or would it have been too much to ask to cast a little flat spot on the bottom of the tranny, so that it would be possible to keep it level. I know ease of working on the vehicle usually doesn't rate too high on the design priorities, but a freakin pointed transmission, give me a break. If nothing else it is a safety issue. Anyway, I am just frustrated and needed to vent, thanks for listening. Hopefully tomorrow with a fresh perspective, I will have better results.
The worst design flaw has to be the way they designed the shape/spacing of the T56 and surrounding area. It is freaking rediculous. I spent half the day literally wrestling with my transmission, first to get it out, then to get it back in, to no avail. This was with a tranny jack, and a floor jack. Could they have maybe designed it so that we had an extra 1/2 inch around the belhousing, so that there is room to move the tranny high enough to line up the input shaft, or would it have been too much to ask to cast a little flat spot on the bottom of the tranny, so that it would be possible to keep it level. I know ease of working on the vehicle usually doesn't rate too high on the design priorities, but a freakin pointed transmission, give me a break. If nothing else it is a safety issue. Anyway, I am just frustrated and needed to vent, thanks for listening. Hopefully tomorrow with a fresh perspective, I will have better results.
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something like this?...!
(while driving)
One second it's full, ok now it's a 1/4 tank..no no wait..now it's 3/4 full, oh ok...now it's back to 1/4 tank again..ok..it just jumped to full, damn ...ok...ok....it's not doing anything..hey? I ran out of gas... lol
(while driving)
One second it's full, ok now it's a 1/4 tank..no no wait..now it's 3/4 full, oh ok...now it's back to 1/4 tank again..ok..it just jumped to full, damn ...ok...ok....it's not doing anything..hey? I ran out of gas... lol
Originally posted by ibanez6rg
Two words.
Fuel gauge :blah:
Two words.
Fuel gauge :blah:
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lmfao....yeah right.....i just couldnt afford to buy a new house and a vette at the same time, but you can bet your butt that ill trade my fbody in a millisecond to get a C5 when i can.
Then your not in the brotherhood
LOL