I heard you.

I'm telling you, if you have no TCS button on your console, you don't have traction control from the factory. Pure and simple.

 

Some people are so hard-headed arent they....

 

Ummmmmmm, is it just me, or did you totally contradict yourself there?!??!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the "performance mode" button and "TCS" button completely seperate????

And regardless, you're talking about a Camaro, which never had anything to do with the "performance mode", and only ever had either ABS or TCS. Now from the sounds of things, your car doesn't have TCS . You first need to confirm that you have speed sensors on BOTH axles, right in behind the brakes, and the axles have reluctor wheels on them behind the hub where the wheel bolts on. That will be a good start . We'll go from there.

 

okay.... I might just have abs and not traction control... but I swear when the rear tires spin it cuts power to the car whether the brakes are being used or not. it is like a primitive traction control...I dont care what kind of button i USE. I will probably hide it anyway along iwth my nitrous, cutout and convertible switch... all stuffed uner the 02 center console...

 

Most cars have had ABS for a long time and yes, yours does. There is no "primitive traction control". Whatever problem you are having can't be related to a system that is not on your car. If you bought a button, there would be nothing to connect it to.
Perhaps you are getting some spark retard that is lowing your perceived power. Some monitoring with a scanner should be helpful to see what is going on.

 

ABS is not going to "cut power". ABS only adjusts line pressures while the brakes are applied when it detects slip. It does not activate during acceleration.

 

that is what I thought. Something cuts power then... and my car runs perfect. it is some kind of traction system I swear. it slightly kills the engine when the car starts to slide.....

it is a 95 camaro convertible silver on black. I can see all the wires under the console. I dont know.... this is a ****ty problem but I think the car has the wiring for the switch. I dont have an auto so I should throw it in and see if it shuts off whatever it is doing this... and if I could find somthing to shut off the abs too... can I wire a switch to that? I am mecp certified but I still would love to have somone with the wiring for this car worked out so I don't have to tear **** up

 

I wanted to do it while everything was apart.. I do have a scan master.. what would I look for? I think the spark retard sounds right..... how?? I swear if the rear wheels slip my engine bogs. it works great for a lot of things but not racing..

 

What is "mecp certified"? Scary.

How to use your ScanMaster:

http://members.aol.com/InjuneerZZ/ScanMast.htm

 

mobile electronics certified professional.2nd in my class.

 

is this only on early 4th gens, or do the late 4th have a similar transmission shift preformance mode? i have a 98 ls1 Z.
tia

 

You dont have it.

 

yea I don't have the outer reluctor rings but I swear my engine bogs when the rear tires spin... It has saved me a lot . I will spin out in snow or rain in a parking lot and the engine will bog and the car will go str8 a lil bit. so I thought that was traction control. come to find out there needs to be a box on the throttle body and I know about the individual wheel reluctor rings I have that on my other cars. I know those cars are newer then my camaro though so I am still trying to figure out what system. It has to be some kind of thing with the sensor in the rear axle right?? How else would the pcm know if the axle is spinning at different speeds I do have abs... fo sho. this sucks... I just wanted to square everything away before the new sound dampening material and carpet went in.. thanks for your help guys..

 

The reluctor on the ring gear and it's sensor feed speed info to the ABS computer-not the PCM. Only if you have TCS does the PCM get any info from the ABS system to alter performance. If your car bogs, you have a performance problem that needs to be tracked down.

 

good to know that about the computer feedback. Then the game plan is to get everything put back together then and see what happens. it might have been a slipping auto trans because that eventually died and I am replacing plugs and wires with another new set just to be safe even though the other set is fine. I have an msd coil and 6al which work fine but I am going to reground and sauder some connections. i'm switching to 1gauge cable for my battery in the trunk and the manual transmission and computer tune hopefully solves the problem.... if it isn't fixed and it is having a weird issue I am going to the shop where I had my gears installed....