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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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If you were smart and really looking to distribute your product and believe it was a good product with good results, you would maybe try looking for the 1st two or 3 volunteers that are willing to but up their Camaro's or T/A's as a test mule, offering the kit with a deep discount for doing so. Take install and final pics then get dyno and test results off those car's. If this kit is really what its cracked up to be, then it will sell itself after that point. Until then, nobody will give you the time of day here cause this is and F-Body board. We want to see lots of pics and results on F-Body's. Most can care less that your having success on your Subaru.

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Hello Ken, When I spoke to Adam on the phone some time ago he said that he had alot of friends that had these on there corvette c4's but I have yet to see or hear from any of them.
It is Adam that you need to talk to but even then, he is realy short when talking to.
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by svxfiles
???!!!
The impeller is 6.8" wide!
The scroll housing is 8.5" wide, and 3.5" deep.
It flows 1700 CFM!
It will easily push up to 18 PSI on a built 350!
Where are the compressor maps? Did any engineering go into this or was it just designed and manufactured?
Old Jul 12, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Hello Ken, When I spoke to Adam on the phone some time ago he said that he had alot of friends that had these on there corvette c4's but I have yet to see or hear from any of them.
It is Adam that you need to talk to but even then, he is realy short when talking to.

Thanks, but i'm not looking to add this kit. Very happy with my Vortech. I was just making a suggestion for svxfiles. Understandable that he cant do that cause its not his company, but if Adam really wanted to get the kits out there, he could approve some discounts for suppliers who sell them for him and get some real world data out there on the forums. I know so some places that have done that in the past when trying to get off the ground. Once they got there stuff out there on a couple of volunteer vehicles and startes posting some actual HP/ET numbers, the kits started moving out pretty quick, to the point where they couldn't keep up.

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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by roguedriver
Thanks, but i'm not looking to add this kit. Very happy with my Vortech. I was just making a suggestion for svxfiles. Understandable that he cant do that cause its not his company, but if Adam really wanted to get the kits out there, he could approve some discounts for suppliers who sell them for him and get some real world data out there on the forums. I know so some places that have done that in the past when trying to get off the ground. Once they got there stuff out there on a couple of volunteer vehicles and startes posting some actual HP/ET numbers, the kits started moving out pretty quick, to the point where they couldn't keep up.

Ken R.
That is EXACTLY how ProCharger started out back in 1994. They GAVE away kits to get the word out. Hell, they still Do for new applications.
Old Jul 14, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 97WS6Pilot
This one:

http://www.jettechsuperchargers.com/kit1.php

The head unit is about half the size of a vortech or procharger. On a built 350ci motor I doubt it would make 4 psi.
I found a couple of pictures in my other locker with a T-5 against a 12" ruler.
I hope this clarifies the size better.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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According to prochargers specs my F1A volute(9") is approx 2-3" bigger than the jet unit. Earlier you told me that the jet unit will flow 1700 rpm. That is 50 more cfm than my F1A flows!!!LOL BTW what is the step up ratio on your jet unit and max rpm?

http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 97WS6Pilot
According to prochargers specs my F1A volute(9") is approx 2-3" bigger than the jet unit. Earlier you told me that the jet unit will flow 1700 rpm. That is 50 more cfm than my F1A flows!!!LOL BTW what is the step up ratio on your jet unit and max rpm?

http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml
I am very hapy that you are very happy with your Procharger F-1A supercharger.
Its a nice supercharger.
I might be speaking out of line here, so I will be brief.
But why do you compare the volute size of your F-1A to the impeller size of the T-5?
Why not give the impeller size?
1650 CFM is more than most people will need, (as is 1700 CFM.)


I sent Adam an E-Mail about your questions and will respond as directed when he gets back to me.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Are there compressor maps?

How was the 1700CFM rating achieved? (was it done by a lab or with an apparatus? What lab was used or what equipment was used?)

What is the exact exducer and inducer diameter? What is the inlet and outlet id?

Once these are answered, I will post another round of questions.
Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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That blower doesn't look horrible.

It wasn't made by some backyard mechanic like we were led to believe.

It "could" be making that flow mark by greatly stepping up the impeller speed, thus reducing life of the blower (or using some great, low-wear, super fantastic bearings.)
Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by svxfiles
I am very hapy that you are very happy with your Procharger F-1A supercharger.
Its a nice supercharger.
I might be speaking out of line here, so I will be brief.
But why do you compare the volute size of your F-1A to the impeller size of the T-5?
Why not give the impeller size?
1650 CFM is more than most people will need, (as is 1700 CFM.)


I sent Adam an E-Mail about your questions and will respond as directed when he gets back to me.
Tom Krynock
I agree it is not a bad looking supercharger. The impellor looks similar to the very first version of the P1SC. To answer your question: I had to guess at the volute size on your jet unit judging by the bottom picture and the ruler you posted. You are right I'm proud of my F1A and other than the Vortech Ysi I consider it to be the best engineered and power producing supercharger that fits on an Fbod. It bothers me that people try to make the Jet unit out to be something its not. I do appreciate you taking the time to post the pics for us.

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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sorry I didn't jump in here sooner, my internet was down. Anyway, like all things, different people like different things better than other people , for example, fords and chevys. This is no different, you all have seen the photos of my engine bay I think on the third page, these are not hacked out brackets. The other benefits of this kit is the install, not sure if it is vortech or procharger but you have to relocate the entire anti-lock brake unit on the vehicle, at least on the impala/caprice models, one of them wants you to take a punch and whack a hole in the corner of your oil pan for a drain line, I think thats crazy! But thats my opinion, I choose not to be damaging a brand new pan or hours relocating the braking system. This thing is self contained as you can see in the photos. I am getting about 9lbs of boost at @4000 rpms, will have to add intercooler or water/meth injection , which fits under any hood . My engine was built for a blower, have before blower dyno sheet and when I finish fuel system up grades will get new results. There is a water to air intercooler for the lt1, I have photos but don't know if I can post them. This blower works great for me and when ever I pop the hood on this car, everyone loves what they see, and some of them are turbo heads.
Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Well all I can add to this, is that must make adjusting your rockers a much bigger pain in the ***.
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Wagon, you have this on an LT1 F-body? And there are pictures?

I missed something?

Ford and Chevrolet are different from one another, that is what puts people in their cars.

Being different is not bad, but some people (me for example) like to know what they are getting and how it stacks compared to the competition for many different reasons (price and performance are two of them).
Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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sorry I didn't jump in here sooner, my internet was down. Anyway, like all things, different people like different things better than other people , for example, fords and chevys. This is no different, you all have seen the photos of my engine bay I think on the third page, these are not hacked out brackets. The other benefits of this kit is the install, not sure if it is vortech or procharger but you have to relocate the entire anti-lock brake unit on the vehicle, at least on the impala/caprice models, one of them wants you to take a punch and whack a hole in the corner of your oil pan for a drain line, I think thats crazy! But thats my opinion, I choose not to be damaging a brand new pan or hours relocating the braking system. This thing is self contained as you can see in the photos. I am getting about 9lbs of boost at @4000 rpms, will have to add intercooler or water/meth injection , which fits under any hood . My engine was built for a blower, have before blower dyno sheet and when I finish fuel system up grades will get new results. There is a water to air intercooler for the lt1, I have photos but don't know if I can post them. This blower works great for me and when ever I pop the hood on this car, everyone loves what they see, and some of them are turbo heads.
First of all, you don't have to relocate the the ABS(although it does make the engine bay look cleaner). You have to relocate the air pump which most people delete anyway. It appears you have an impala but I'm not sure because you have no signature. Most of the prochargers are self contained except for the p600b which is an older design.

The only way you could be making 9lbs of boost at 4000rpm is if the supercharger has a very high step up gear ratio. Try putting an intercooler and the necessary piping and see if you still get 9 psi. If I were you I would put meth injection on it and call it a day.

I looked at your pictures on page 3. Is the throttle body elbow rubbing against the bracket? Is that a 6 rib belt? Where is your air filter? Making 9 psi at 4000rpm with no air filter and no intercooler would be more believable...

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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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car is not an f-body, it is a caprice wagon, adjusting valves won't be that bad, I can have this entire set up off in about 25 minutes, in one piece. And again I choose this set up because of noy having to remove ANY part of the emission system, brake lines or anything else. The air cleaner is on the back side, will try to post other photos, I believe I was looking at a procharger set up on someones car and it didn't have an air filter, not a choice I would make, probably will go with the meth injection, and yes, the rubber elbow does touch the corner of that bracket, but thats why its rubber, he had an earlier version that was aluminum and was notched out for that but in keeping the costs affordable went the rubber route. Again there is a water to air intercooler that should clear the f body hood, will see if I can post those photos, it mounts on top of the engine and you pump water to it



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