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how much diff will twin logs flow over tubular headers?

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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how much diff will twin logs flow over tubular headers?

ok just like the title says,,,,,,,, is there a big difference from tubular in flow and back pressure given the same size turbo, T4? there they are
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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There is not a clear answer to your question but there are a couple people with log manifolds making 1000+ hp. I believe tubular headers will flow more than logs but the real question is how much power are you wanting to make?

Where is A-town Texas? I'm in Austin..

Who did the headers? They look pretty good!
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Equal length turbo headers for equal timing of exhaust pulses seems more applicable when you only have 4 cylinders firing, rather than 8. Probably wouldn't notice a huge difference.

Those manifolds are very cool btw, the best part is the thick v-band flange. Did you make em?

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Power level makes a difference. Like they said, what are you shooting for? Headers will make more... but it depends at what power level.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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i live near waco,

ya i made them,,,

and im looking to run consistent low 9's, so maybe make round 900 thru a th400! think thats possible?
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Those will be good for your goals.

I'd be more concerned about cracking with that design. Logs are inherently stiff so thermal expansion isn't nice to them. Take a look at the stock log on Buick GN's - they have expansion joints built in between cylinders. You'll probably have to cut the single head flange into 3 flanges, then use a solid copper gasket and stage 8 bolts to continue to seal as the front and rear flanges slide back and forth across the head during thermal cycles.
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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ok cool, i didnt know if it would be better to leave them this way or to cut the flange!
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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trouse, where did you get that transition for the ?1 5/8? to the actual log?
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I would definitely slot the flange to seperate the ports into 3 flanges.

Also I Would drill out the very outside 2 bolt holes 1/8" oversize, the next 2 inward 1/16", and leave the center 2 bolt holes normal sized. ESPECIALLY is the flangeis stainless steel. This allows for thermal expansion outward from the center. You can expect about .1" of expansion per foot... This can sheer bolts in the head with log manifolds.
Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeGyver
...You can expect about .1" of expansion per foot... This can sheer bolts in the head with log manifolds.
Funny...that's close to what I calculated a couple years ago.
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