Forced Induction Supercharger/Turbocharger

compression and supercharging

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-09-2006, 07:11 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
WMcD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ancaster, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 13
compression and supercharging

My question is what compression are you save with at what boost.
I presently have a fully forged 383 LT1 that has 11.2 compression.
I have an opportunity to get a supercharger that will deliver 4-6# boost without intercooler.
Do you feel that a forged bottom end with my compression would last or should I be looking at decreasing compression. Is there a rule of thumb that you use to calculate this issue. I am trying to get around having to remove my motor, buy new pistons, and rebalance the entire assembly.
WMcD is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 10:37 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
CrazyLT1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 437
With a fully forged bottom end, you might make it a while as long as you keep the boost that low - methanol injection or something would also help.

But your compression is way too high for running much boost at all. 10.0:1 is about the highest you see people go on blower motors, but around 9.0:1 is about normal. IMO - you should just run a nitrous shot on your motor as it is now if you dont want to lower the compression. If you want to go for a blower, I would lower the compression first - because once you feel the boost, you will always want more!
CrazyLT1 is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 11:03 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Roadie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Breese, IL
Posts: 799
also, that "4-6#" -- is that on a stock engine? If you see 4-6psi on a 350, you won't see that same pressure on a 383. Maybe 2-4psi.
Roadie is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 11:18 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
OBE1 95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 4,950
The issue with a high compression engine is that you'll have to run high octane race fuel to prevent detonation issues. Lowering the compression ratio will allow you to boost the engine and manage detonation with 91 -92 octane.
OBE1 95Z28 is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 04:27 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
CALL911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: IN
Posts: 3,225
Agree with above posts. If you run a VERY mild application of boost (4#'s or so), with methanol injection, on a fully forged setup, you will probably be okay. But for the little extra power 4-6#'s will do, it would be much more cost effective to make power using your existing high CR forged motor with Nitrous.


If its a matter of HP, you need to ask yourself, which you want more;

550 RWHP with Nitrous for $2,000 (top of the line direct port setup) using current motor?

or

550 RWHP with a blower for $18,000?

Last edited by CALL911; 11-12-2006 at 05:04 AM.
CALL911 is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 05:04 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
blown69nova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: milwaukee,WI.
Posts: 106
If you want to use pump gas and drive regularly on the street, seriously, don't boost it! On the other hand, if you don't mind using race gas, intercool it and add as much boost as the octane will allow, and be safe with your timing.
Steve
blown69nova is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 07:27 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
WMcD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ancaster, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by CrazyLT1
With a fully forged bottom end, you might make it a while as long as you keep the boost that low - methanol injection or something would also help.

But your compression is way too high for running much boost at all. 10.0:1 is about the highest you see people go on blower motors, but around 9.0:1 is about normal. IMO - you should just run a nitrous shot on your motor as it is now if you dont want to lower the compression. If you want to go for a blower, I would lower the compression first - because once you feel the boost, you will always want more!
I'm not big on nitrous as it is generally addictive until disaster occurs.
My car presently runs 11.40 NA and 3825# with me in it.
I thought a little boost might get me into the 10's.
WMcD is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 07:29 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
WMcD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ancaster, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 13
Originally Posted by Roadie
also, that "4-6#" -- is that on a stock engine? If you see 4-6psi on a 350, you won't see that same pressure on a 383. Maybe 2-4psi.
That is interesting to note as I didn't realize boost decreased with inches.
That being said 2-4# boost probably wouldn't help much especially if I have to pull timing out.
WMcD is offline  
Old 11-10-2006, 08:06 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
ak95ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Eagle River, Alaska
Posts: 360
Originally Posted by WMcD
That is interesting to note as I didn't realize boost decreased with inches.
That being said 2-4# boost probably wouldn't help much especially if I have to pull timing out.
Also dont forget about the 70 extra pounds of weight for the setup.
ak95ta is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Hal Fisher
Parts For Sale
0
09-30-2015 09:03 PM
surreybrad
General 1967-2002 F-Body Tech
1
09-29-2015 09:00 PM
HAWG
Drag Racing Technique
2
09-25-2015 11:41 AM
DelSoto
Forced Induction
4
09-19-2015 05:31 AM



Quick Reply: compression and supercharging



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:32 PM.