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WMcD 11-09-2006 07:11 PM

compression and supercharging
 
My question is what compression are you save with at what boost.
I presently have a fully forged 383 LT1 that has 11.2 compression.
I have an opportunity to get a supercharger that will deliver 4-6# boost without intercooler.
Do you feel that a forged bottom end with my compression would last or should I be looking at decreasing compression. Is there a rule of thumb that you use to calculate this issue. I am trying to get around having to remove my motor, buy new pistons, and rebalance the entire assembly.

CrazyLT1 11-10-2006 10:37 AM

With a fully forged bottom end, you might make it a while as long as you keep the boost that low - methanol injection or something would also help.

But your compression is way too high for running much boost at all. 10.0:1 is about the highest you see people go on blower motors, but around 9.0:1 is about normal. IMO - you should just run a nitrous shot on your motor as it is now if you dont want to lower the compression. If you want to go for a blower, I would lower the compression first - because once you feel the boost, you will always want more!

Roadie 11-10-2006 11:03 AM

also, that "4-6#" -- is that on a stock engine? If you see 4-6psi on a 350, you won't see that same pressure on a 383. Maybe 2-4psi.

OBE1 95Z28 11-10-2006 11:18 AM

The issue with a high compression engine is that you'll have to run high octane race fuel to prevent detonation issues. Lowering the compression ratio will allow you to boost the engine and manage detonation with 91 -92 octane.

CALL911 11-10-2006 04:27 PM

Agree with above posts. If you run a VERY mild application of boost (4#'s or so), with methanol injection, on a fully forged setup, you will probably be okay. But for the little extra power 4-6#'s will do, it would be much more cost effective to make power using your existing high CR forged motor with Nitrous.


If its a matter of HP, you need to ask yourself, which you want more;

550 RWHP with Nitrous for $2,000 (top of the line direct port setup) using current motor?

or

550 RWHP with a blower for $18,000?

blown69nova 11-10-2006 05:04 PM

If you want to use pump gas and drive regularly on the street, seriously, don't boost it! On the other hand, if you don't mind using race gas, intercool it and add as much boost as the octane will allow, and be safe with your timing.
Steve

WMcD 11-10-2006 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by CrazyLT1 (Post 4216923)
With a fully forged bottom end, you might make it a while as long as you keep the boost that low - methanol injection or something would also help.

But your compression is way too high for running much boost at all. 10.0:1 is about the highest you see people go on blower motors, but around 9.0:1 is about normal. IMO - you should just run a nitrous shot on your motor as it is now if you dont want to lower the compression. If you want to go for a blower, I would lower the compression first - because once you feel the boost, you will always want more!

I'm not big on nitrous as it is generally addictive until disaster occurs.
My car presently runs 11.40 NA and 3825# with me in it.
I thought a little boost might get me into the 10's.

WMcD 11-10-2006 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Roadie (Post 4216976)
also, that "4-6#" -- is that on a stock engine? If you see 4-6psi on a 350, you won't see that same pressure on a 383. Maybe 2-4psi.

That is interesting to note as I didn't realize boost decreased with inches.
That being said 2-4# boost probably wouldn't help much especially if I have to pull timing out.

ak95ta 11-10-2006 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by WMcD (Post 4217977)
That is interesting to note as I didn't realize boost decreased with inches.
That being said 2-4# boost probably wouldn't help much especially if I have to pull timing out.

Also dont forget about the 70 extra pounds of weight for the setup.


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