It has nothing to do with people being hard headed. I can write a book on the flaws of ATI blowers just like some can write a book on the flaws of Vortech blowers.

Tell me this why are Mustang guys making good power with Vortechs?

 

LOL So one shop has bad results and it is the word of God? LOL ATI and Vortech have been claiming lawsuits for years now. Nothing new, and guess what neither of them have won anything.

I can show you shops and their dynos of making above Vortech's claims. Puts the end to your idea of everyoen not geting the results claimed. Like I said before, the only hard headed person here is someone who sees a dyno result and claims no one is making the power advertised because of ther results... Well guess what, many many people get excellent performance every day from Vortech.. and have already proven the results of the blowers.. One serious word of advice, do not take a Vortech blower to their shop, because it is obvious they do not know what they are doing in regards to these blowers..

BTW, what claims are you talkingabut and what particular setup are you claiming does not work as advertised and what mods onthe vehicle if any?? This should be good.

 

The dyno tests weren't done at our shop. They were tested at many different dyno tuning shops. I don't remember what cars they were or what mods they hoad but they were probably mostly stock. I'm not saying we did this it's been done many times. And on mustangs making good power on vortechs some of the highest horsepower mustangs run procharger, and you don't have to drill a hole in your oil pan with a procharger.

 

You don't have to worry about drilling holes in the pan but you do have to worry about leaky blower seals with the self contained units. Like I said both Vortech and ATI have their advantages and disadvantages.

 

Show me your sources. Sounds like you are talking out of your ***. You do not even know the mods on the tested cars?? Not your shop now?? GIve me a break.

BTW Vortech has been proven many times at many places. Need sources for this info?? LMAO!!!

 

mr_camaro96z28

Lets see if any of this looks familiar to you?

Sounds like you have alot of experience with superchargers. Just how many have you put on being in high school?

Doing tire rotations and oil changes? Oh no wait, must be doing supercharger comparisons for ATI

Must be at this job you build all these motors?

You build hi performance motors and rate superchargers, but dont know what clutch to run?


Please go out and learn something, other than Quoting what magazines you read at work waiting for your next oil change.

 

Burn!

 

We've owned Vortech SQ, YS and YSI trim and haven't had any problems with them. Their hp ratings seem about right.

 

I don't know how bored you must be to check all of my posts to see what I've said in the past, but I will be the first to admit I still have alot to learn. Maybe you ought to look into that, you know admitting you don't know it all. I now work at a dealership and am going to school to LEARN,and also listening to and working with people at the race track and the performance shop. I'm doing what I can to learn as much as possible. Most people on this board are pretty good people but you are out to do nothing but make me look stupid. Sorry but I don't have access to a scanner to post the results, but if I get access to one I will show them to you. As you can tell the only way for me to get on the internet is when I come home on the weekends. I wasn't trying to make you mad I was just telling you what I've seen. I never stated that the tests were at my friends shop you just assumed (I think we all know what that does). So you run your Vortech and we'll run our prochargers and we'll all be happy and go our own ways.

 

I have a Procharger F1 on my car now and formerly had a Vortech S-trim. Both have done what they were supposed to with no problems. But I do hear of more blower related reliability issues with the Prochrager. As far as performance, I think if you compare similar blowers they are very close.

I do think that if you want a basic blower install the Prochger D1 with the twin intercoolers makes a nice setup.

Rich Krause

 

I'm runnin' a bone stock 01 SS except the D1-SC, Twin Intercoolers, injectors, pump and a tune. And this car is sweet, runs like stock until you floor it, then its a raped ape.

The reasons I went ATI-

Don't have to cut up my hood (SS's Only)
No oil line, failed blower bits into engine?
Ease, no water res., pump, ice, etc...

Plus unless your puttin' in ice how well is it coolin on top of the motor?

I also havn't had any leak issues........(knocking on desk now!!)

 

In all seriousness no one is out to make you look stupid. Some of us go by experience while other go by what we have heard. I have owned a few ATI blowers and let me just say your comments don't match up to what I have experienced and seen. Like I said both Vortech and ATI make good blowers. Both of them have their advantages and disadvantages.

 

Excuse me but you made yourself look stupid all on your own.. You did not need any help with that.. What you do need help with is if you do not want to get hassled on this board or others, then do not post ridiculous claims like you did. It is simple as that. Misinformation is the #1 most hated thing on tech boards. If you are here to learn, that is great, but one of the first things you need to realize is making a statement like

"Just don't go vortech they're overrated and you won't get the promised power."


and basing it on some dyno's that you did not post, in which you can't even tell what shops they were done at or even the mods on the cars....

it is called talking out of your ***.

DO a search in this forum and look at all of the posts with people having great success with Vortech blowers and this alone will show you how clueless those remarks you made were.

 

My IROC ran 11.31 @ 120mph with a vortech S-Trim on it. I was very pleased with the performance I got from it.

Ive seen too many posts from people with ATI's claiming how the pullies dont line up, the brackets flex (worse than vortech), impellers breaking up @ high rpms and spewing **** into the engine. Ive seen only a handful of posts like this about Vortech. The most recent issue I had with procharger, was when a friend of mine installed a P1SC on his fox body Mustang. He had to grind away at the metal on the tensioner itself to get the belt to clear. When he called procharger on this, they said that they had not setup the kits on a car prior to releasing it but that all sources showed it should fit.

Is that the type of response you want to get from a company that mass markets a power adder? Not me.

Im a turbo fan now but if I were to ever recommend a supercharger or for some reason use one again, it would be Vortech.

 

Had nothing to do with being bored. What it had to do with is you in here giving advise when you have no real life personal experience.

So since everyone reads the same magazines, we all go to the track, we all go to speed shops and so on, leave the advice to people that have actually owned at least 1 of the mention blowers and/or some hands on expericen with them. Not your "buddy" at the track.

Now for me, I have had an ATI unit, Novi 2000, Turbo car, Nitrous car, N/A cars, currently working on building my Z06 and 2004 Cobra Mustang, helped build 2 Super Street Outlaw Mustangs, the first was with a T76 Turbo and the second was with a T100. Travelled around the country to the races with just me and the owner/driver of the car as the race team. Where does your experience match up? Go back to flipping pages and reading posts.