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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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76mm A/R Question?

I'm running a Turbonetics TC76 F-1 0.96A/R on a 350 6-speed, mild heads/cam.

I'd like the car to spool faster. To me, the blower had more mid-range and came in harder than the current turbo setup. Is there a better choice for the turbine housing A/R?

Strictly a street car & also stock rods so limited to about 550-600 CSHP anyhow.

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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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I'm running a Turbonetics TC76 F-1 0.96A/R on a 350 6-speed, mild heads/cam.

I'd like the car to spool faster. To me, the blower had more mid-range and came in harder than the current turbo setup. Is there a better choice for the turbine housing A/R?

Strictly a street car & also stock rods so limited to about 550-600 CSHP anyhow.

Thanks,
Scott.
Hey Scott, have you exhausted the tuning efforts yet? Tuning can really help with spool. If you have, try a .68 A/r or .81 A/r. Doesn't hurt to try.
Old Oct 22, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Jon - I haven't even started tuning. Still got the FMU on it

I figure I'll try a 2-bar setup in the spring and might as well try something like a 0.81, especially with the modest goal of < 600 crank HP.

Nice score on the TIG - more options and capability is a definite plus.

-Scott.
Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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ZDefinitely tune that puppy the right way MY BCM should be here tomorrow, so I may be able to get the shop car up and running

I can't wait to hook the tig up... I'll post pics this weekend.
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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That's a BIG turbo for that low of a power goal... Lower your A/R for sure should make it more inline with the power band of your motor.
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Is this the same Turbo as mine, TC76 w/MPS Wheel? On a separate observation, I would never think a Turbo would hit as hard at lower RPM's as a Supercharge. I think they just are different approaches.

S/C = Lots of Torque down low, good power up high(consumes a fair amount of power to drive the device.

Turbo = Moderate Torque down low, GREAT power up High(consumes no power to drive)

Some guys are making low RPM Turbo boost gains with a Turbo valve(shuts off half the scroll at low RPM's, forcing ALL the exhaust into a smaller aperture, thus spinning the exhaust turbine much faster. I believe 33% faster is the figure I'm seeing)
Originally Posted by boosted-lt1
I'm running a Turbonetics TC76 F-1 0.96A/R on a 350 6-speed, mild heads/cam.

I'd like the car to spool faster. To me, the blower had more mid-range and came in harder than the current turbo setup. Is there a better choice for the turbine housing A/R?

Strictly a street car & also stock rods so limited to about 550-600 CSHP anyhow.

Thanks,
Scott.
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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That's a BIG turbo for that low of a power goal... Lower your A/R for sure should make it more inline with the power band of your motor.
That makes sense. Do you think the 0.81 would be best? They offer a 0.68 also.

Is this the same Turbo as mine, TC76 w/MPS Wheel?
Pretty much. The F1 incorporates the latest Turbonetics technology to maximize exhaust energy. It's has 10 blades, extended tips, and made of 713C Inconel.

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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A .68 is too small and will choke off a 446rwhp car, .81A/R housing is probably just perfect.

If you put the car in 2nd gear really low rpm and floor it, at what rpm does it hit full boost?

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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If you put the car in 2nd gear really low rpm and floor it, at what rpm does it hit full boost?
It takes forever. Feels like a stock 350 until well into the rev range. Maybe gets into boost at ~3800/5psi and then ramps quickly to 10psi at 5000. I shift at 5500 right now.

Pretty sure the header gaskets are done. I had a bunch of the bolts back out. But it still wasn't always right. Like RealQuick said, I got to get this thing tuned. The FMU takes the motor rich almost right away. I see 10:1 AFR (which is max rich on this gauge) right when boost comes up ~4K.

If I get it up a little bit like 3500 and side step the clutch in second - about 95% of the time it wont even break street tires. It will usually bog and take a two count to start 'feeling like a car'.
Old Oct 25, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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Ya give the .81 a try
For reference, on that same 2nd gear test, my rear mounted STS turbo was at full boost (7psi) @ 3000rpm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdjh3EY6shU
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