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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Re: Kooks headers, Borla catback, but what Y-pipe?

Originally Posted by Jason Short
In short, yes But, I understand how it's easy to draw that conclusion since everything after your Y-pipe will still be 3" in diameter.

I gained 8rwhp with my custom Y-pipe (Flowmaster merge) over the stock Kooks Y-pipe on my H/C LS1 combo a few years ago. I'm sure the gain would be more like 10rwhp ALONE from the merge on a FI car. And, I still had a 3" catback on my car (SLP dual/dual).

Any time a fluid (air/exhaust in this case) moves through an orifice, it incurs losses from bends, turns, merges, and even through a strait pipe. In this case, cutting a hole in an existing 3" diameter and essentially jamming another 3" pipe into that one at almost a perpendicual angle is VERY inefficent.

Also, if you do go this route, it's also important to reduce the 4" outlet to a 3" over a distance. The 4" to 3" reducers that reduce over 1" in distance are not optimal. A reduction in diameter over 4" in length would be much better.

Here is a link from 'tech with some good reading: http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/genera...er-y-pipe.html

Hope this helps.
I have had a mufflex Y-pipe in the past that was 4", and then reduced via a 12 inch space, and I actually LOST power with it. I saw a gain of a handfull of HP from going to a 3" Y-pipe.

Originally Posted by Injuneer
With 614 rwHP, I'd think the 3" Borla would be a significant limitation. Why not a 4" Mufflex catback? I had Mufflex build a custom 3" Y-pipe using the Flowmaster 2x3->4" merge that Jason mentioned, and then continued back with the 4" catback. The only reason I switched to duals was because the Gear Vendor O/D unit interfered with the Y-pipe, and the Mufflex catback weighs a lot.

http://www.injuneer.com/images/photo...t/TADS4in.jpeg

Funny.... everything in that 11 year old picture is gone.... ACPT CF D/S, early Spohn torque arm design, Mufflex Y-pipe......
You may very well be correct, however I am not looking on replacing my ENTIRE exhaust system. I love my Borla, and I really hate the way mufflex catback systems look and sound, and fit. Dealing with that mufflex Y-pipe in the past, nothing fit right, and it took forever to get it to work. I would be happy to loose power over having a mufflex catback.
Old Feb 26, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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Re: Kooks headers, Borla catback, but what Y-pipe?

To each his own.... I guess that's the difference between buying one mail order, and driving to the shop and letting them build a custom unit.

Sorry I even suggested it. My apologies for wasting your time.
Old Feb 26, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Re: Kooks headers, Borla catback, but what Y-pipe?

Call911, it sounds like no one can help you then. Sorry to waste your time.
Old Feb 27, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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Re: Kooks headers, Borla catback, but what Y-pipe?

Rather than extend a pointless argument, I'll leave my own thread.
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