Need advice to upgrade suspension to launch better
My 93 Firebird Formula has most common bolt on mods. I am currently running low 13's with 1.8 60 foot times. I drive the car regularly on the street, and my wifes drives it also. I have a hi-stall speed convertor, 3.73's, and Nitto DR's. I have to launch at low RPM's and depending on track conditions even not mash the gas hard until I am rolling a bit. Otherwise I spin too much. I have to start upgrading the suspension, and need help deciding what way I can best spend my limited resources. What have you guys seen the best results from? I am thinking torque arm, or new lower control arms with relocation brackets. Anyone have any insight? I would prefer to keep the sway bar if the wife will be driving.
Before I spent any money on suspension I'd put some tires under that thing. Then I would probably say go with some tubular LCA's. I have a pair of Hoosier QTP's 26x11.5x15 that only have around 15 passes on them and I sell them for $300 shipped.
Randy
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Originally posted by AL SS590 M6
Yep tires. Et streets work well. You may not have to spend a dime on the suspension.
Yep tires. Et streets work well. You may not have to spend a dime on the suspension.
There are people here who have cut very low sixty foot times on drag radials, but often with the help of suspension parts.
Et Streets are a good thing to have. My times became far more consistent after getting them and they hook significantly better than drag radials.
Losing the sway bar and putting on some adjustable shocks so they can be loosened at the track and tightened for the street is another good thing.
The catch to weight transfer is that it involves tires, shocks, springs, the torque arm, subframes, and other pieces as well. These components need to work together as a group to provide a good launch.
My hunch is the closest thing to a "silver bullet" is tires, then go for shocks, sway bar, and skinnies.
BTW: I still have a stock torque arm although that may change in the near future. I don't even have subframe connectors, or relocation brackets... But I do have a welded six point bar...
Et Streets are a good thing to have. My times became far more consistent after getting them and they hook significantly better than drag radials.
Losing the sway bar and putting on some adjustable shocks so they can be loosened at the track and tightened for the street is another good thing.
The catch to weight transfer is that it involves tires, shocks, springs, the torque arm, subframes, and other pieces as well. These components need to work together as a group to provide a good launch.
My hunch is the closest thing to a "silver bullet" is tires, then go for shocks, sway bar, and skinnies.
BTW: I still have a stock torque arm although that may change in the near future. I don't even have subframe connectors, or relocation brackets... But I do have a welded six point bar...
Last edited by TedH; May 16, 2004 at 04:30 PM.
If i were you i would get better suspension.
I have a 95 hawk (billstien suspension) with 275 wide nittos. It has new TQ arm, BMR LCA's, LCA brackets, SLP subframe, and BMR panhard rod.
The thing dynoed at 348 rwhp and i cant even spin the tires at all. It will barely chirp 2nd and it can only spin in 1st if i gun it from a roll over 25. BTW i havent dropped the clutch due to the 10 bolt.
I am a FIRM believer that suspension mods help more than anything.
-Stu
I have a 95 hawk (billstien suspension) with 275 wide nittos. It has new TQ arm, BMR LCA's, LCA brackets, SLP subframe, and BMR panhard rod.
The thing dynoed at 348 rwhp and i cant even spin the tires at all. It will barely chirp 2nd and it can only spin in 1st if i gun it from a roll over 25. BTW i havent dropped the clutch due to the 10 bolt.
I am a FIRM believer that suspension mods help more than anything.
-Stu
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