Shopping for a Wide band
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I can use this with leaded fuel right? I should have asked that first......
I guess it will work, just eat up sensors?
What about oxygenated fuel?
I guess it will work, just eat up sensors?
What about oxygenated fuel?
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yeah the sensor should last for a while on a race car though. you will just have to change it every now and then. i remember reading about a sensor that is suposed to be better with lead but i am not sure if it is a wideband. again fred would be the person to ask about this.
that is a really good price though, i would be happy about that
that is a really good price though, i would be happy about that
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Only downfall is I had to buy an MSD tach adapter to get the rpm logging to work. 
BTW, In addition to the output controlling a Nitrous hit, and the WBC doing internal data logging (for USB offloading later), I'm hooking up the 0-5v analog output to a switch for the AC Pressure input to the PCM for Autotap logging (figured I'd try a few projects at once).
Now if I can just find a way to feed my brake pressure sensor (via a hurst line loc solenoid port) and fuel pressure senders to the OEM PCM... (a 4 way switch on the AC Pressure line would work, but I'd like to log more than 1 at a time with AutoTap).
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Well one of you wise guys tell me how you data logged with this AEM?
I ask myself why do I even listen to people sometimes......
I have a gauge and a GD sensor....I don't have a honda civic....I can't watch the gauge going down the track, WTF am I supposed to do with this POS?
I ask myself why do I even listen to people sometimes......
I have a gauge and a GD sensor....I don't have a honda civic....I can't watch the gauge going down the track, WTF am I supposed to do with this POS?
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I havn't looked at the AEM unit you mention, but if it has a 0-5v analog output you can feed it to the car's PCM input for AC Pressure and log it using AutoTap (or whatever scanning software you have that monitors that voltage).
Typically WB outputs for the guage is 0-5v analog, but some WB's have more than one output for this reason (to run a gauge AND logging... I doubt you can run them in series or parallel from the WB). the really trick WB's have internal memory for logging (like the DynoJet WB Commander) AND and output for USB dynoload after the fact, or streaming data DURING the run (nice to have options) with a few analog lines for say TPS, RPM, and MAP.
logging WB's typcially arn't the cheap ones.
Typically WB outputs for the guage is 0-5v analog, but some WB's have more than one output for this reason (to run a gauge AND logging... I doubt you can run them in series or parallel from the WB). the really trick WB's have internal memory for logging (like the DynoJet WB Commander) AND and output for USB dynoload after the fact, or streaming data DURING the run (nice to have options) with a few analog lines for say TPS, RPM, and MAP.
logging WB's typcially arn't the cheap ones.
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I havn't looked at the AEM unit you mention, but if it has a 0-5v analog output you can feed it to the car's PCM input for AC Pressure and log it using AutoTap (or whatever scanning software you have that monitors that voltage).
Typically WB outputs for the guage is 0-5v analog, but some WB's have more than one output for this reason (to run a gauge AND logging... I doubt you can run them in series or parallel from the WB). the really trick WB's have internal memory for logging (like the DynoJet WB Commander) AND and output for USB dynoload after the fact, or streaming data DURING the run (nice to have options) with a few analog lines for say TPS, RPM, and MAP.
logging WB's typcially arn't the cheap ones.
Typically WB outputs for the guage is 0-5v analog, but some WB's have more than one output for this reason (to run a gauge AND logging... I doubt you can run them in series or parallel from the WB). the really trick WB's have internal memory for logging (like the DynoJet WB Commander) AND and output for USB dynoload after the fact, or streaming data DURING the run (nice to have options) with a few analog lines for say TPS, RPM, and MAP.
logging WB's typcially arn't the cheap ones.
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I have descided to sell the AEM and get the New accel unit that is a simple plug and play to the DFI.......It logs, its does everything and very simple with everything I need included. It is a similar unit to the one injuneer posted. It cost quite a bit but I don't care.....
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dude it has two wires, both made specifically for logging, one is anolog and one is digital. i have personally used it for logging on 3 different cars
read this page
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
specifically this part
read this page
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
specifically this part
Ideal AFR monitoring tool for EFI and carbureted applications, and engine dynamometers
Does not oscillate AFR reading like narrow band sensors
No laptop required for monitoring!
Bosch sensor included
Accurate to 0.1 AFR
Reads in AFR or Lambda via a switch in back of gauge housing
24 Color-coded LED display lights provide immediate reference to engine’s air/fuel ratio (AFR) or Lambda ratio
Integrated three-digit display reveals AFR or Lambda in real time
User-programmable 0-5v analog output included for use with data loggers and virtually any engine management system
Serial data stream included for output of AFR (RS 232)
Does not oscillate AFR reading like narrow band sensors
No laptop required for monitoring!
Bosch sensor included
Accurate to 0.1 AFR
Reads in AFR or Lambda via a switch in back of gauge housing
24 Color-coded LED display lights provide immediate reference to engine’s air/fuel ratio (AFR) or Lambda ratio
Integrated three-digit display reveals AFR or Lambda in real time
User-programmable 0-5v analog output included for use with data loggers and virtually any engine management system
Serial data stream included for output of AFR (RS 232)
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dude it has two wires, both made specifically for logging, one is anolog and one is digital. i have personally used it for logging on 3 different cars
read this page
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
specifically this part
read this page
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=67
specifically this part
It does not come with a cable or DB9/ RS-232...it comes with a flying lead. You have to make the cable your self....and the only thing it outputs is a signal.....
White wire 0-5 volt output
Blue wire connects to pin #2 or a rs232 com port for hyper terminal data logging There is a switch on the back to select lambda or AFR
Not what I was looking for. The accel is the way to go for me...siply plug it in....select the desired AFR for map vs. rpm.....done...go run it. No gauge not extras...plug it in and go