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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:40 AM
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besides, the 08's were only a short limited number run. the 09's are out and a manual is available.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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no it won't.
I'm refering to the G8 GXP and yes it will.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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I'm refering to the G8 GXP and yes it will.

I don't think it will take that, GMHTP did 13.1 in a G8 GT with only a K&N filter and a tune.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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I don't think it will take that, GMHTP did 13.1 in a G8 GT with only a K&N filter and a tune.
Amazing how a 4 door sedan with 361hp filter and tune out performs a 425hp SRT8. Dodge made those things way too heavy.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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I checked out one of the 500 (for Canada '08 SRT8 Challengers) that was sitting on the local dealer's floor last week, and to my surprise, the driver's seatback could not be canted forward to allow entry into the rear seat!!
Only the front passenger seat has this capability!
So... if you are going to have 4 people riding in the car (of which 1 has to be sitting behind the driver), that person must enter on the passenger side and then turn him or herself into a pretzel in order to shoehorn themselves into position behind the driver!
The salesman looked at me with a straight face and said, "the original car had that same feature!!"
A friend of mine had a '70 Challenger convertible and I rode in it a few times. That's not something I remember about that car!

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sselie
I checked out one of the 500 (for Canada '08 SRT8 Challengers) that was sitting on the local dealer's floor last week, and to my surprise, the driver's seatback could not be canted forward to allow entry into the rear seat!!
Only the front passenger seat has this capability!
So... if you are going to have 4 people riding in the car (of which 1 has to be sitting behind the driver), that person must enter on the passenger side and then turn him or herself into a pretzel in order to shoehorn themselves into position behind the driver!
The salesman looked at me with a straight face and said, "the original car had that same feature!!"
A friend of mine had a '70 Challenger convertible and I rode in it a few times. That's not something I remember about that car!

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They need to get that corrected for 09 production.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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I went to look at one at a dealer here. same 58K "market value adjustment"
handwritten on the window sticker.
Then it had another deskjet printed out piece of paper that said "tent sale 49,995" in the window so I guess they couldn't unload it for what they wanted.
MSRP on it was 40K.

The next day they moved it to the back and had a V6 there but it was a more reasonable $27,995.
Then the next day what appeared to be the same v6 car had blue stripes down the side. Guess that's the dealer installed racing stripes package.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by djn
I'm refering to the G8 GXP and yes it will.
While I think that the G8 GXP will likely be faster than the Challenger SRT8, it won't be under 30k. The 2009 G8 GT is nearly 32k. I think the GXP will be at least 36-38.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
While I think that the G8 GXP will likely be faster than the Challenger SRT8, it won't be under 30k. The 2009 G8 GT is nearly 32k. I think the GXP will be at least 36-38.
Ok still faster and 10 - 20K less than a Challenger SRT8 with the stealer markup.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by djn
That's correct and the new Pontiac G8 will smoke it for well under 30K.
Motorweek got the G8 GT down the quarter in 13.4@106mph.
Road & Track got it through the quarter in 13.5@105mph
Car & Driver: 13.8@104

Edmunds got an SRT Challenger through the quarter in 13.2@108mph
Road & Tracks quarter mile time in the Challenger was 13 flat@ 110
Car & Driver: 13.3@108

SRT Challengers are low 13 to 13 second flat runners.
G8 GTs are mid 13s.

Also, the Pontiac G8 GT now starts at $30,675.

The Pontiac G8 will not "smoke" a SRT Challenger (as you put it), and a G8 does not cost "under" $30,000.

To avoid making foolish statements in the future, please check on the facts.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...608_g8_dp2.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...llenger_dp.pdf
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-4.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...y_+page-2.html

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Motorweek got the G8 GT down the quarter in 13.4@106mph.
Road & Track got it through the quarter in 13.5@105mph
Car & Driver: 13.8@104

Edmunds got an SRT Challenger through the quarter in 13.2@108mph
Road & Tracks quarter mile time in the Challenger was 13 flat@ 110
Car & Driver: 13.3@108

SRT Challengers are low 13 to 13 second flat runners.
G8 GTs are mid 13s.

Also, the Pontiac G8 GT now starts at $30,675.

The Pontiac G8 will not "smoke" a SRT Challenger (as you put it), and a G8 does not cost "under" $30,000.

To avoid making foolish statements in the future, please check on the facts.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...608_g8_dp2.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...llenger_dp.pdf
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-4.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...y_+page-2.html
Speaking of foolish statements, according to Pontiac's website, the G8 GT still starts at $29,995 including destination. It won't be that way for 2009, but that has been discussed.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by djn
I'm refering to the G8 GXP and yes it will.
If you happen to have the official times from the GXP (which won't be out till later this year) or any magazine tests for it, then I'd like to see it.

Being that the 2008 Challenger SRT8 has an automatic and a pretty weak 3.06 rear end and the 2009 has a 6 speed manual and a 3.91, it's not going to be a stationary target.

The GXP will have a 3.70 ratio. GXP's LS3 has 420 horsepower but 405 lbs/ft of torque. The SRT has 425 horsies and 420 in the torque department.

These numbers hardly suggest, hint, or predict any smoking of the SRT by a GXP. It may suggest some other type of smoking being done by someone making that statement, but at best the cars will be pretty close to even but most likely, the SRT is the favored bet to edge out a win between the 2.


Originally Posted by Plague
Speaking of foolish statements, according to Pontiac's website, the G8 GT still starts at $29,995 including destination. It won't be that way for 2009, but that has been discussed.
Today's August 19th. If you order a G8 GT it's going to be a 2009, as it has been for a a little while now.

The site refers to 2008 models.

Seems we zeroed in on this little item yet, completely missed djn's double backflip in which he 1st stated a "sub-$30,000" G8 GT could "smoke" a SRT Challenger, then backpedaled like mad to say he meant a G8 GXP would smoke a SRT Challenger.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

1. Isn't the G8 GXP going to be out during the 2009 model year? And...

2. Isn't the G8 GXP going to cost alot more than $30,000???

The post is like we've focused on cleaning that spec of dust on the table, but ignored the pile on the floor the elephant in the room made.

(I'm simply ribbing you, Plague, not slamming you )

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Motorweek got the G8 GT down the quarter in 13.4@106mph.
Road & Track got it through the quarter in 13.5@105mph
Car & Driver: 13.8@104

Edmunds got an SRT Challenger through the quarter in 13.2@108mph
Road & Tracks quarter mile time in the Challenger was 13 flat@ 110
Car & Driver: 13.3@108

SRT Challengers are low 13 to 13 second flat runners.
G8 GTs are mid 13s.

Also, the Pontiac G8 GT now starts at $30,675.

The Pontiac G8 will not "smoke" a SRT Challenger (as you put it), and a G8 does not cost "under" $30,000.

To avoid making foolish statements in the future, please check on the facts.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...608_g8_dp2.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...llenger_dp.pdf
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-4.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...y_+page-2.html
BS, you can buy the G8 GT all day long for under 30K, 28 & 27K I've seen them on ebay. As for my claim that the G8 GXP will smoke the SRT8, I was right on that one as well 0-60 in 4.8 and standing quarter in 13.1 are the states I've seen. You best read before you throw your mouth in gear.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
As far as Chrysler hurting themselves by not offering a manual, I think you are basing that on nothing more than your imagination and wishful thinking. In case you have been living in a cave, under a rock, or Afghanistan the past decade, 70% of all 2002 Camaros were automatics and the previous few years were not far off that number.
What's the automatic/manual ratio of Camaro SS and Z28? This is SRT8 model, not your run-of-the-mill base V6. I wager that the vast majority of all automatic Camaros were V6 models.
Old Aug 19, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by djn
BS, you can buy the G8 GT all day long for under 30K, 28 & 27K I've seen them on ebay. As for my claim that the G8 GXP will smoke the SRT8, I was right on that one as well 0-60 in 4.8 and standing quarter in 13.1 are the states I've seen. You best read before you throw your mouth in gear.
This should be fun.



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