Were these shown already???





If thats the Aveo RS..WOW

or is it just the concept for the spark?

 

For some reason I would not be against them renaming this car Monza or Nova. The Monza may have been crap..but it has street cred at the drag strip now. The Nova may have been bigger than the Aveo...but I think it could be used because it is an old name most people don't have negative feelinga about..but also don't care enough about to have an uprising over.

 

I honestly don't think any of the Aveo's target market would know anything about Monza's street cred at the track. As for Nova, the Aveo is likely to be a bit bigger than the last gen Nova (aka Toyota Corolla).

That bit of nitpicking aside, I think they should just stick with a name for once. Yeah, it may not have the best reputation, but I don't think the general population thinks it's total crap either. It doesn't have the "old GM" ring to it. If the new car is a solid piece, I think the Aveo name will do just fine on it.

 

That's the WRCC Ultra Concept from 2006:

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...ept/index.html

It's definitely had a styling influence on GMs recent small cars, but I've heard that the Aveo looks more similar to the Groove concept.

 

ohh ok...I saw the rally car. But saw the mock up and said no way could they of actually done a concept to reality for a car again?? Truthfully thats what GM needs is a hot looking car like that.

 

The article claimed that Aveo RS is going after Golf GTi. GTi, as far as I know, is only used on Golfs. Aveo RS is based on Aveo, which is a junky new Daewoo that hardly anyone is thrilled about. GTi belongs to Golf/Rabbit, which was a hit ever since it was released. It's an icon! Indeed, to have any hopes of Aveo (ANY Aveo) stand up to Golf/Rabbit is a bit ridiculous.

Even if it matches GTI's performance in handling/straight line acceleration, it's still no match for Golf/Rabbit. I hope it matches Mazdaspeed 3.

What you're dissecting here (although I understand where you're coming from), doesn't really fit.

 

I'd rather have a wascally wabbit than Elmer Fudd.

 

I dont care either way but the thrust of this thread is that the GTI is a hot hatch.

Sure, the GTI is cool. I like it, you probably like it, and most probably would. All opinion of course.

But in the context of sales I dont think the GTI is hot at ALL and if Chevy wants to make a more GTI like would that mean less units made? Chevrolet isnt exatcly known for low volume (very low in this case), high profit vehicle making.

Any whoo... I dont agree with the premise that the GTI is a hot hatch or a necessary target. Its a weak seller. Looks neat... doesn't sell well that I know of.

As for quality look back to sources like JD power over the last 10 years for VW.

 

You can deff. see a lot of this concept in the new Aveo. The Aveo they will show is much more..modern? Body lines are more production spec looking.
But the front nose area, the aggressiveness of the body...its like a mix of this, and the new Golf. At first glance, it looks like a three door, GM did a hell of a job hidding the rear handles.

 

New models are going more and more global, so any design for full production in North America should go elsewhere.

"Nova" is dead. Spanish speaking countries don't want it. Monza on the other hand, might be okay. But we already know a Spark is coming under Aveo anyway. We'll see how much of a "production" vehicle we get soon enough...

Though something like the concept shown would be pretty sweet - though in 4 door trim it is smaller than a rabbit, but as is (in a two door) it might go against a little GTI... Hmm...

 

That's an urban legend my friend...

http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

 

Im sick at home and bored , so on photoshop I played . Tried to see how the WTCC concept transfered into a real car . Heres what I came up with .

Original pic


Chop

 

And you know that even though it doesn't litterally translate to 'no go' GM would get REAMED if the used that name again; by stupid people who spread that story in the first place.

GM doesn't need a Nova, and it doesn't need a Monza. People who buy an Aveo couldn't care less and probably wouldn't even know the name was a nod to former models. I'm all for sticking with the Aveo name. It's not a great car, but it is a decent name...

 

That looks awesome.

 

Edit: by looking at GTI Polo I realized it's not a name unique to Golf. Anyhow.

Everyone knows that a GTI is a Golf with upgrades. It is not a different car.