Will Aveo RS become a hot hatch like the VW GTI?
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The current Aveo is such a miserably crappy car it makes my Aura feel like a flagship luxury car. Are we sure the new one is going to be such a huge improvement that you could put it beside a VW GTI and not laugh? The GTI is a seriously impressive machine.
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Because small cars have very small margins..and it's the only way to build a profitable business case. Ford's business plan for the Fiesta centers around getting people to pay premium money for it since it is made in the US. If I remember right the Fiesta costs the same if not more than Focus. GM likely loses money on every Cobalt and Aveo it sells.
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Lutz said that Cobalt was profitable back around 2007 or so. If it was then, surely it is now considering the minimal changes in its life cycle.
The Aveo has been around since 2002 and has only had a couple of minor upgrades. If it's not amortized by now, Daewoo did something WAY wrong.
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Duly noted about the Malibu. They need a sport version that German car lovers would love to test against their A4's.
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Not that I don't have faith in the NEW GM, but I think they're making a big mistake carrying on the Aveo name if they want respect for their small car, especially in a performance arena.
The current GTI is a very good car and has decades of history backing it.
The Aveo was a GM/Daewoo venture resulting IMHO in a subpar subcompact much like a Hyundai Excel from the mid 1980's. I.e. a piece of ****.
The current GTI is a very good car and has decades of history backing it.
The Aveo was a GM/Daewoo venture resulting IMHO in a subpar subcompact much like a Hyundai Excel from the mid 1980's. I.e. a piece of ****.
I like them, but am fearful of their quality. No way I would pay so much money for a little hatch.
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What was on this car to make it so expensive? Ive been pricing 2010 GTI's and with almost every option including the DSG trans which I did not select its hard to reach $35K . My combo had manual trans , sunroof , Nav , bi-xenon hid's , 18" wheels and a few other must haves for me and was sitting right around $29,000 . Unlike alot of other small cars though , the GTI feels like the money it costs . For someone who really wants a premium small car and not justifying price based on the size or segment of the car , thats whats important .
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What was on this car to make it so expensive? Ive been pricing 2010 GTI's and with almost every option including the DSG trans which I did not select its hard to reach $35K . My combo had manual trans , sunroof , Nav , bi-xenon hid's , 18" wheels and a few other must haves for me and was sitting right around $29,000 . Unlike alot of other small cars though , the GTI feels like the money it costs . For someone who really wants a premium small car and not justifying price based on the size or segment of the car , thats whats important .
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What was on this car to make it so expensive? Ive been pricing 2010 GTI's and with almost every option including the DSG trans which I did not select its hard to reach $35K . My combo had manual trans , sunroof , Nav , bi-xenon hid's , 18" wheels and a few other must haves for me and was sitting right around $29,000 . Unlike alot of other small cars though , the GTI feels like the money it costs . For someone who really wants a premium small car and not justifying price based on the size or segment of the car , thats whats important .
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Yes yes lol . Went thru 2 years with a last gen Jetta GLI . Friend of mine is building his supercharged corrado in my shop now , for what it is , it's kinda cool .