Just a word on the LS7. It's going to be a verrry expensive motor. GM spent the bucks to create the "magical" 427 ci displacement for Corvette. Looks like Caddy will have it's fingers on it also, for the next gen CTSv.

By the time we see the next gen Zeta GTO/Camaro, that platform will have an engine available (other than LS7), beyond LS2. Beyond LS2 in performance and displacement.

I guess anything is possible....but the 4th gen had a better chance of getting the LS6, than the GTO will have of getting the LS7.

 

Any word on the next Camaro getting the 427 LS7 at some time??

 

Ok, as for the rumors, think of it this way. Better flowing intake/heads/exhaust, larger displacement, higher compression ratio along with, I belive, a bigger cam, then the LS6, and it is somehow making 5hp less then the LS6? I understand your speculation, but really, think about it. Not to mention that the LS2 was first put in the SS concept rated at 420hp.
And the GTo might have run 14 sec in Car and Driver, but there are many GTO's running in the 13.1-13.4 range with autos hitting mid 13's. Now, thats pretty good. Only thing really holding it back are thoes wussy tires. Id love to see at least 255's with a 275 option.
Im sure that with the upcoming GTO getting more performance revisions now that they have more time to develop it, it will be a good 12 sec car, probably on par with the 03/04 Cobras

And its very possible that Pontiac will use the LS7 or something like it for the GTO. Pontiac is going twards a more performance-tuned line up, so expect less cladding, and more hp.

 

The LS2 for the '05 Corvette is a sweet motor. The low end torque is much better than the LS1. The cam is not bigger than the LS6. Lift is .525 primarily for idle quality. '02 and up LS6 is .551 intake, .547 exhaust.

Now, for an LS2 powered vehicle where the customer expectation is not "docile" idle? Maybe you catch the drift...

LS2 has the same rev limit as LS6.

 

Actually the SS concept was 430HP and 430tq, What many beleive the true LS2 #'s to be.

There is no reason the GTO with an equally powered engine can't be as fast as the Cobra. Weight is so close it shouldn't be a big issue, tires will be the only thing holding the GTO back, maybe they will mod the body so 275s fit.

 

Many?!? ROTFLMAO! How about posting links.
There have been two claims of '04 GTO's running quicker than a 13.4 bone stock. Two. One is NikiVee's car...which I personally am still extremely skeptical about. A 1.91 short time on a KDW with 20psi? The other was the SLP car. The 13.1 claim was met by skepticism by everybody. Most M6 GTO's are in the high-13's, but I'll give them to benefit of the doubt. And A4's hitting mid-13's? Find me one, just one bone stock A4 running mid-13's. This is a bogus claim.
How about counting your chickens after they hatch. This whole discussion is akin to the ones that took place over a year ago, when the '04 GTO was guaranteed to be a GTO killer. Now it's a year later...
Uh huh. Remember you said this when the LS2 powered '05 M6 is running low-mid 13's at 107-108mph, which is where I think it'll be based on the current car's performance. In general, M6 cars are running 103-105mph. I'd expect them to pick up 3-4mph with the LS2.
Several people on this forum are saying GTO won't get the LS7, but I guess wishful thinking doesn't hurt.
And there is no cladding on the current car, that's one thing I like. If anything Pontiac might want to make them a bit more aggressive, as most seem to dislike the understated look. Conversely, I think Cobra looks aggressive and ominous.
S.

 

I agree. Point being..."with an equally powered engine".
The question is whether GTO will get a 430+hp LS2, which is at least what it would need to be on equal footing with an '03/'04 Cobra (two years later!).
S.

 

Just out of curiosity....how much would you be willing to pay for a theoretical LS7 GTO?

 

All the info out there is pointing to a LS2 GTO for 2005.

 

Uh.... the new GTOs actually do out accelerate the old ones in stock form.

 

A Fard boy talking about being late to the horsepower game

 

Oops...meant to say "Cobra-killer".
New GTO does trounce the old ones, even the tri-power 389 cars.
S.

 

Yeah...but who has been late for the last few years? Hint...it hasn't been Ford.
S.

 

Ok, I figure that the current GTO sells at 33k, and I dont expect for the car to climb over 20k more, so mid 40's. The GTO is pretty loaded now, and say the 6spd is standard, sounds about right.

 

Ford finally caught up only when the competition went away. (SVT boys must have been thanking god when they found out that GM wasn't going to build any LS6 Camaros).

Now that competition is coming back in the form of LS2 GTOs and 6.1L Hemi Chargers, Ford making their top of the line 2005 Mustang 300HP