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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Re: Why Camaro need a 400hp MIDLEVEL engine...

Why save it? If we could have a V6 camaro, the size of a 350Z or G35 with the same performance using the same technology....it would only be awesome to take on them as well.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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no.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Nope. That's a market for a different car altogether.

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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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INSURANCE

or just underrate it about 75 hp
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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In light of Guy's recent post, I think we can forget about seeing more than one engine choice for Camaro. Assuming there are two cars, the Chevelle/Zeta Coupe will be the higher volume car with multiple drivetrain options. Camaro, as a niche car, will be treated much like the Corvette is treated.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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I really dont like the idea of a niche Camaro. But if it is built off the Beta or Torrana chassis, I guess thats going to be the case.

I also think that if the Camaro is NOT a Zeta car, I think that we can give up hope for a AWD model for now, but an AWD Monte would deffinatly give it a "luxury coupe" edge.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Why Camaro need a 400hp MIDLEVEL engine...

Originally Posted by Big Als Z
I really dont like the idea of a niche Camaro. But if it is built off the Beta or Torrana chassis, I guess thats going to be the case.

I also think that if the Camaro is NOT a Zeta car, I think that we can give up hope for a AWD model for now, but an AWD Monte would deffinatly give it a "luxury coupe" edge.
Check out the other thread and my one engine for Camaro suggestion. I speculated the niche Camaro would return as:

07 Camaro SS V8 Coupe
07-08 Camaro SS V8 Convertible
08-09 Camaro Z28

What if the Z28 is AWD?
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28

What if the Z28 is AWD?

I think that is a very good scenario BUT I think it won’t happen due to cost. The powertrain would have extra components and would need to be quality parts too. (half-shafts etc.) I think that would drive up the price quite a bit to say 38K-40K which is pretty pricey.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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lets not turn this into another AWD camaro debate

Also remeber that the 35K Evo is based on a $13,000 econobox. I'm sure that adding AWD had something to do with the price going up by $22000.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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I agree with pacer.

You guys are acting like the LS2 is such a HUGE increase from the LS1. IT'S NOT.

I also see some:

"I'd kill myself in a 400HP car...blah...blah..blah"

"It's too fast"

"People will be afraid"

C'mon now, how much more does the LS2 actually put down than the LS1? 30-40rwhp? IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF AN INCREASE.

It would actually make sense considering the last of the F-bodies actually put down 350 Horsepower.

Use a LS2 as the midlevel and underrate it at about 350 Horsepower, just like they underrated the LS1. Would that make you sissies happy?

If some sissies are too afraid to drive an LS2, V8 5th gen Camaro, let them have the six, or buy a Mustang.

BTW: An ls1 camaro which is as much as 7 years older, still does a good job at taking out any 05' GTs.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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Teens cant handle the 320hp from the LS1 Fbodies, and now you are gunna give them 400hp? There is a reason why insurance is so high...and its not due to the low slung seats.
There should be a rule that no one under 18 should be able to drive a LS2 equiped Camaro. I dont feel like paying double for insurance what my monthly payments are.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 02:08 AM
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Re: Why Camaro need a 400hp MIDLEVEL engine...

Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Teens cant handle the 320hp from the LS1 Fbodies, and now you are gunna give them 400hp? There is a reason why insurance is so high...and its not due to the low slung seats.
There should be a rule that no one under 18 should be able to drive a LS2 equiped Camaro. I dont feel like paying double for insurance what my monthly payments are.
Wake up Al! Teens aren't going to be buying or driving 5th gen Camaros.

They're building it for us old farts!
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 02:27 AM
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They should be. They should be interested in the V6 model at least or even the low base V8.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
They should be. They should be interested in the V6 model at least or even the low base V8.
Teens?! Even the 4th gen base Camaro cost like what, $16k? I don't know ANY teens that could afford that...maybe some that dropped out of highschool to become mechanics. I actually knew one guy that went to my highschool that had his dad buy him a brand new Formula, but his dad also owned a local dealership, so he got a discount. Teens don't buy brand new cars unless they're free or their parents buy it for them (in which case, the teen isn't buying it). Do you know what a $400/month car payment + AT LEAST $300 insurance payment looks like to an 18 year old kid? Right on the same level as marriage.
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:28 AM
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Later teens, early 20's. I've seen it with the last M*stangs. Yes sometimes parents helped, but they were still bought by the kids if they had to pay them back. (and of course, sometimes they don't) Same thing with 3rd Gens back in the day. V6 cars and low model V8's, some young people do save their money or get jobs for these purposes!



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