What would be the 5th gen deal breaker?

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May 11, 2004 | 11:49 AM

#61

Z28x

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Originally posted by Darth Xed
I tried to get a WS6 T/A, but none could be found with a stick.

So you bought a MC that doesn't come with a stick

Have you looked at the new S/C Monte SS yet?

May 11, 2004 | 12:04 PM

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Darth Xed

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Originally posted by Z28x
So you bought a MC that doesn't come with a stick

Have you looked at the new S/C Monte SS yet?

Ya... lol. go figure on my goofy logic!

To be honest, the QUALITY factor was big. If I couldnt get a manual WS6, I didnt want it... I knew the Monte's Quality was excellent because my wife (fiancee at the time) had an 01 SS... I knew the F-body's quality was so-so from experience.

I looked at the SC SS's, ya, but I think I am just going to hold off and see what comes out in the near future.

Right now, if I were to buy a new daily driver, it'd be a CTS, a GTO, or a 2005 Mustang. I have issues with all 3. The CTS is a 4 door. The GTO has it's 'odditities" (trunk, reverse radio controlls, no Onstar) , and somewhat bland styling), the 2005 Mustang is retro (boo)... but the price and equipment is appealing.

May 11, 2004 | 12:20 PM

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dream '94 Z28

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The cost savings certainly makes sense... but again, why haven't Ford and Chrysler jumped on this if it is so worthwhile?

I don't know for sure, but as my experience with executives, finance people, and their 'funny money' math, 2 + 2 for GM could equal something different than for Ford and something all together different for DCX.

May 11, 2004 | 04:21 PM

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guionM

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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Aren't DRLs easy to defeat? I don't understand why some people get so upset about something like this. I can understand if the lights being on causes a security issue but other than that, I don't see why it is such a big deal, at least not a "deal breaker". It is like someone not buying a Corvette or F-body because of the skip shift feature. Just buy a .75 resistor and plug it into the skip shift harness, problem solved.

Skip shift? Just crawl under your car and unplug it, that's all. Considerably easier to solve than ripping your dash apart to get at the auto-light sensor.

I simply refuse to pay $625+ per month for the next 4 years of my life for a car that I'm going to have to spend time, money, and possibly voiding part of the warranty simply because GM want's to save 25 cents per car. If it's no big deal, then they can opt not to put them on in the 1st place.

My dad recently brought a Silverado Z71. What's the only thing he dislikes about his truck? Indefeatable auto lights. He wasn't aware they had them till after he had it the 1st night. I doubt he'll reach the level of hatred I have of the things because I've been in seemingly endless situations where the things were a complete pain or worse.

Those f*cking autolights lights nearly got me cited more than once while entering San Diego's Navy base because I didn't dim my lights for the guard (this was when the base was on high alert immediately after 9/11, and everyone was armed and on edge!

).

As the buyer & customer, I don't have to have the mentality to accept something I don't want when spending my own hard earned money if there are other options out there. GM no longer makes the only hot handling, affordably quick American made RWD cars.

One way or the other, I simply won't be dealing with non-defeatable auto headlights again.

Period.