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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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The Z28 needs to be an affordable good looking RWD V8. Plus it needs to stay faster than the Rustang GT. Let the Camaro SS run with the Cobras.
Old May 8, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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These would definetly break it for me:

-The Z28 not the top "Z06" Camaro (mismanaged designations)
-No in-between V8 mid-models
-Lousy styling again
-Retro styling
-Generic interior
-Prices too high
-Not enough options
-Boring lower model cars
-No T-Tops
Old May 8, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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I won't buy it if it doesn't do anything for me visually. I didn't like the 4th gen at first, but it grew on me (in about 3 months) and I bought one.

And of course, price.
Old May 8, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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If it is too "Sedan-like".
Old May 8, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Won't buy one if:
1.It's too plain alla Z28 looks like the V6.
2.If it's a 4 door.
3.If it has a generic interior,generic-looking dash like the 4ths had.
4.has severe overhangs
5.doesn't look Camaro-ish
6.crappy wheels,though aftermarkets would be an easy fix but woud rather stock.
7.overpriced-would like to see the Z28 stay in the $22-25K range
8.If the RS is more sportier/muscular looking than the Z28.
9.ugly
10.If I can't afford it
Old May 8, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by IZ28
-The Z28 not the top "Z06" Camaro (mismanaged designations)
So if the car is an absolute home run in terms of power, styling, chassis dynamics, interior design, quality and pricing but is called Camaro ZZR (or something) instead of Z28 it's a deal breaker? That sounds a bit silly.
Old May 8, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Weight

Yall are argueing about weight, look at the 4th gens, they aren't so light, but you still have one. 3,500 is nothing.
Old May 8, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by IZ28
These would definetly break it for me:

-No in-between V8 mid-models

-Boring lower model cars
Are you planning to buy a mid range V8? If so why would you not buy that car because the V6 model isn't to your taste?

I'd like to see 2 V8s also, but if the only V8 is a 400HP LS2 you will not hear me complain.
Old May 8, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ed 2001 SS
So if the car is an absolute home run in terms of power, styling, chassis dynamics, interior design, quality and pricing but is called Camaro ZZR (or something) instead of Z28 it's a deal breaker? That sounds a bit silly.
A "Z/28 type" car not called Z/28....would rain on my parade too.

Or maybe even worse...a "non-Z/28 type" car called Z/28 would really ruin my day.

Why even bullsh!t around with it? Just get it right, and everyone's happy. No problem.
Old May 8, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Z28x
Are you planning to buy a mid range V8? If so why would you not buy that car because the V6 model isn't to your taste?

I'd like to see 2 V8s also, but if the only V8 is a 400HP LS2 you will not hear me complain.
ahaha agreed. I really dont care if there is no mid range V8.

If the base gets teh 3.9, the RS gets a 5.3 and the Z28 and SS share the ~400hp LS2, Im still gunna be in the Z28's seat. I will be quazi-diapointed, but it wont stop me from buying. Same goes for "if the Z28 isnt the top model" stuff. I dont want the Z28 model to be tops!! I WANT MY STRIPPER Z28!! It can be faster then the SS, but leave the SS trim with the leather and wings and scoops with onstar etc etc etc in the 30+ range.
and yeah, the 4th gen is 3500+lbs, but you guys are happy? I say if it gets above 3700 full loaded, then we have problems. Lets be real people. The car will have IRS along with a better quality car. Its gunna cost us in weight. I can live with the car if its 3550-3600. I still got the power!
Old May 8, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I WANT MY STRIPPER Z28!!
I think you may be disappointed Al. It's tough to even get a stripper Aveo anymore. A 5th gen Z/28 will certainly not be a stripper. "Content limited", yes. "Stripper", no.
Old May 8, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
A "Z/28 type" car not called Z/28....would rain on my parade too.
I could understand it raining on your parade, but IZ28 is talking about cancelling the parade!

As far as a midrange V8, it would be nice but I wouldn't buy it. I want the biggest baddest V8 available!
Old May 8, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by IZ28
These would definetly break it for me:

-No in-between V8 mid-models
-Boring lower model cars
Why would it matter to you since you are buying a Z28 anyway?Not all people can afford the higher end models. I also think that it would be great for the Camaro/sales if there were low-midrange (V6/V8) models also.It helped 3rdgen sales and perhaps it guarunteed a 4th generation to be produced.Maybe it would strive people to want to save for the higher end models in the mean time.

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Old May 8, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Eh, I have a V6 Firebird, and while it's much better than my old car, I do yearn a bit for more power. But, then I may not have been able to afford it. Who knows.

Heh, I know a good deal breaker, it's not going to be a Firebird .
Old May 8, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Things that would really dissapoint me:

1. excessive weight. I think 3400-3500 is already too much, and then you get into a cage, drieshaft loop, big blower or turbo, intercooler, fire extinguisher, etc. these things add weight ya know

2. limited levels. 3rd gens are some of my favorite cars ever, and you could get them in alot of trim levels. kept the idea of owning one alive for alot more people. i think that needs to be there

3. a useless v6. not that its a dissapointment really, but I think it would be interesting to make a usable and cheap v6 for the masses, but one that also has an aftermarket or GM parts support to go faster. There are plenty of GN guys and GTP guys having fun with their 6s, so there may be kids getting suck with v6s that later want to make theirs move too. this way they actually could do so. This would also require more cars to have solid parts, and I dont have to walk through junkyards or car lots saying "damn, a v6, nothing worth having for parts here"

4. no ttops. Ill take TTops, I'll take targa top. But I want some sort of open roof and I dont want a convertible.

5. the wait. 2008??? I have no idea where I will be financially or car wise 3-4 years from now, that is rediculous.



Things that would make me not buy one:

1. If I hated how it looked. Which I doubt will be the case.

2. If it really is excessively heavy. I dont need a caprice. If it has 2 doors and is sporty, what the hell am I doing over 3600lbs. You know how much faster and how much better gas mileage and how much better I could turn without the weight, damn

3. Any serious oversight on buildup. If it has its own achilles heel, or "10 bolt", if you will. Something so glaringly wrong that you wonder if they ever stopped to think before they built the car.



I plan on having one in my driveway. If not it will be a new charger, or an old charger or camaro (or both) that I build. OR a huffy moutain bike, because gas prices are retarded



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