So.... would the UAW let one of it's own members park there if he or she happened to be a Bush supporter?

I know most UAW workers are Democrats, or vote Democrat... but there are some Republicans.

 

difference being, a union member pays dues, which were used to pay for the parking lot.

 

Absolutely.

Of course, if you think about it, the UAW is one of the biggest supporters of the Democratic Party... if a UAW member happens to be a Republican, then money from his union dues is going to support the Democratic Party, which I am sure he or she, as a member of the opposing party, would perfer not to happen, but it does anyway...

 

truth of the matter is, when all is said and done, its a job. People do things at work all the time they dont agree with just so they can make a living. I see this as no different. Now, I'm not a repub or a dem, I vote for who I like at the time, but if I was a repub and worked there I probably would be looking for a new job.

 

The way union membership is heading in this country, they'll be on life support in 10 or 15 years, so let them have their fun while they still can.

 

Unions are killing the big 3, I can't blame them for wanting to build cars in Mexico and China.

 

What I truely can't imagine is that ANYONE would've supported Kerry. I guess the only thing that makes sense is that Kerry was democratic. It's funny how horrible he would've been. Did anyone read the Time magazine that was published after the elections? They had two reporters (one for both parties) basically follow both Bush and Kerry around for a month or two on the agreement they weren't allowed to publish any of their information until AFTER the election. The Kerry reporter said that Kerry was (in my own words) such a mess of a decision maker that he had to call people just to decide what tie to wear! How could we ever have a president in office that can't make ANY decisions and stick with them? You want to talk about track records? Look at Kerry's track records in the elections, he went back and forth on every decision atleast once, it's no wonder he lost the election. Granted, Bush has had some problems, but you have to give the man some credit. It's amazing how low a group will go when the person they supported lost fair and square. It's amazing though that the UAW has the nerve to do this to the Marines... sure it's their right to say "No you can't park here because you drive an Import or because you have a GWB bumper sticker" but need they be reminded that they wouldn't HAVE that parking lot if it weren't for the Marines and the military defending their right to even OWN the land that they do? At that, it's funny that they are discriminating on import drivers considering that most imports are made in the United States now anyway... BY UNION WORKERS, imagine that. Lastly, as far as I'm concerned (personal belief) the Union is the closest America has ever come to communism, and as far as I'm concerned the UAW officials should be jailed for treason. Instead of creating a problem or creating more negative press, they should do something more positive. I liked the comment someone posted back at the beginning about the UAW helping them own domestic cars if they just can't afford the new cars and drive the imports because they're cheap. The next time terrorists strike, I pray that they target the UAW headquarters.

 

And the U.S. Marines DONT pay their dues, right?

 

The election is over, you can spare us the drivel.

 

The absolute same could be said in the construction unions. Everyone knows it, everyone knows about the dinners with the union leaders and company owners, and the hard work playing tetris while on the clock, but the socialist machine rolls on.

Like I said, I've worked union and I've 'paid my dues'...and I'm not talking about the $ they robbed out of my checks either. To echo what everyone has said, thats why companies are going to Mexico, thats why unions are in a decline, and thats why unions have cut their own throats.

Example: In California, we had the grocery store unions go on strike a while back. Why? Because the companies asked the union members to pay some of their medical insurance...not all, not most, but some. They had it paid by companies 100% til then. Unions went on strike for that reason. Who cares? I'll tell you who cares. Companies who are in direct competition with them, buying in huge volumes, and selling at the 1-2% margins. These unions, like UAW, thank God, are walking dinosaurs. America will be much better off without them, and with the way the world markets are going, it'll be just in time.

 

1. I am impressed it took 'till page 3 for 90rocz to mention Halliburton. Yes its all Bush's fault.

I also see you wasted no time cherry picking news articles. For every doom and gloom article you link I could post 10 positive stories. But I won't go there because I don't need to prove my point, everybody here knows how your argument tactics work by reading the Foreign v. Domestic thread.

2. Yes, the UAW can do this. Its not right IMO, but its legal. Its not illegal to discriminate based on people's choices. Its wrong to say Blacks cannot park there because you have no choice over your skin color, but you do have choice over what vehicle to buy. How else could a Camaro club exclude Mustang members?

3. This just goes right back to the anti-americanism demagoguery the left tries to throw at us to guilt us into buying domestic branded cars. Based on the theories of some here, even if you bought a Swedish built Saab you would be more American than someone who bought an American made Nissan, because perhaps 2-3% of the purchase price goes back to GMNA as profit, nevermind the 70-80% that probably goes directly into the US economy to labor and suppliers from the Nissan car.

So, we on the right get labelled warmongers for saying anyone who disagrees with the Iraq war is unpatriotic, yet the left is doing the exact same thing, just based on purchasing decisions.

The UAW doesn't want to build better cars so we CHOOSE to buy American, they just want us to do it out of guilt. If you can't compete in the market, use propaganda to win customers. I reckon its fair play even if its not really right.

The fact is the UAW is just like the Democrat party. It is controlled by the far left 5% of the political spectrum, the socialists, anti-Americanist, Anti-Capitalists and the closet communists. A full 40% of union members in america vote Republican, but 90rocz doesn't want you to know that because 0% of UAW political contributions go to GOP candidates. Members have their hard earned money confiscated to use for things they may not agree with, including stupid stunts like revoking parking priveleges for people who put themselves in harms way so morons like the UAW leadership don't have to.

You see, they are also discriminating against the CHOICE to serve, because after all the lies about the draft we still have a 100% volunteer army. So because these Marines choose to drive an import the UAW has seen fit to spit on their service.

How about this UAW. Build the best cars in America at competitive prices and you won't have to worry about the imports anymore. Maybe then you won't need to resort to jingoistic insults and implications of unpatrioticness to sell cars.

I find it ironic because in all other situations the left hates references to American exceptionalism, patriotism, etc.

 

to both above posts. I have never been more against the Union. When I worked as a lowly bagger at a grocery store, 1/3rd of my check was going to the union... tell me this: What is the union doing for me, a lowly bagger, that I should have to submit 1/3rd of my check to them? Nothing. I was 14 and 15.. and they weren't doing a damn thing to benefit me, all they did was "take candy from a baby"

 

yae, well republicans hate the union, the union hates the republicans, thats all there is to it.

And bryan, i think that your right about Kerry, i voted for democratic of course since my dad works for union and has been laid off 4 times since Bush has been office, so thats just number one reason we vote democrat. But other than that, i think last election more people voted against Kerry than for bush. If democrats had a different candidate, might have been different story..

PS. What happened to Al Sharpton? LOL

 

I voted against Bush more so than for Kerry. There are a lot more Republicans that are better for the job than Bush. Mccain or Giuliani would have crushed Bush if they ran in this past election.

The sad thing is that out of 300 million Americans we only get 2 to pick from for president

 

This has nothing to do with the presidential election.

REAL marines, a lot of which I'm friends with serve because they want to, not because they expect to be treated different and have their cacks sucked just because they're marines. What you don't seem to understand is the fact that they are marines have NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH to do with it, it could have been ANY other group and would have been the same result.

About your last comment, all I have to say is wow, just shows how much of a piece of crap you really are.