UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Originally Posted by number77
I think the one of the submoderators deleted my post since i disagreed with him 
one of two reasons i don't post over there
one of two reasons i don't post over there
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
On the other hand, last time I checked being a Marine was a voluntary occupation, so don't see why they should be able to park in any spot. Amendment 3 deals with our right to use our property however we see fit and says we don't have to let soldiers stay on it if we don't want.
But I do agree that it is kind of a crappy thing for the UAW to do. The suggestion to help them get into American vehicles would be a much nicer thing to do.
But I do agree that it is kind of a crappy thing for the UAW to do. The suggestion to help them get into American vehicles would be a much nicer thing to do.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
The company has every right to deny the Marines a place to park (no matter how dumb a decision it might be). The issue is can they deny certain Marines a place to park because they have a certain decal on their car? Or drive a non-UAW built car?
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
The UAW is perfectly within its right to choose who gets to use their parking lot. There's no reason they should support people who support a politician who would slit their throats. There's also no reason they should tolerate the competition on their property.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Originally Posted by Dwarf Killer
The UAW is perfectly within its right to choose who gets to use their parking lot. There's no reason they should support people who support a politician who would slit their throats. There's also no reason they should tolerate the competition on their property.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
Am I to understand that at thier next car purchase these marines are going to buy american because they want to use these parking spaces on weekends? Not going to happen. It makes them look really bad.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Originally Posted by Dwarf Killer
The UAW is perfectly within its right to choose who gets to use their parking lot. There's no reason they should support people who support a politician who would slit their throats. There's also no reason they should tolerate the competition on their property.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
After all, it's their jobs that suffer.
Pretty dumb.....don't you think?
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
You know, for a bunch of "politically correct" views being displayed here, there sure are some strong stereotypical comments being thrown at the UAW.
Discrimination is hardest seen in one's self.
Should you be supportive or tollerant of people who are proud to display their support of a political party bent on destroying your livelyhood?
When parked at the UAW lot, it would appear that they too supported those political forces.
While there seems to be a more pollitically correct movement(universal tollerance) going on, the UAW still stands for something, namely American jobs that are diapearing at an alarming rate. Standing for something means making decisions based on principal whether "politically correct" or not.
It's easily to take pot-shots at an organization that is opposed to Big Buisness Heirarchy, given almost all of the press is owned, in one way or another, by Big Buisness. Given a repeated bombardment of lies and half-truths and exaggerations, I can see why there such deep rooted stereotypes.
Like I said, we have people driving and parking foreign cars and sadly a "few" that had Bush stickers on them, at my UAW facility. Ignorance of what they support is all we oppose, and trying to get them to research, beyond the media, what they stand for is the best way to seek changes.
There are still many people in the UAW that have had to take strong stands to have their voices heard, remember there is still a lot emotional baggage attached to this subject, from past and even recent policies, corporate and political.
Discrimination is hardest seen in one's self.
Should you be supportive or tollerant of people who are proud to display their support of a political party bent on destroying your livelyhood?
When parked at the UAW lot, it would appear that they too supported those political forces.
While there seems to be a more pollitically correct movement(universal tollerance) going on, the UAW still stands for something, namely American jobs that are diapearing at an alarming rate. Standing for something means making decisions based on principal whether "politically correct" or not.
It's easily to take pot-shots at an organization that is opposed to Big Buisness Heirarchy, given almost all of the press is owned, in one way or another, by Big Buisness. Given a repeated bombardment of lies and half-truths and exaggerations, I can see why there such deep rooted stereotypes.
Like I said, we have people driving and parking foreign cars and sadly a "few" that had Bush stickers on them, at my UAW facility. Ignorance of what they support is all we oppose, and trying to get them to research, beyond the media, what they stand for is the best way to seek changes.
There are still many people in the UAW that have had to take strong stands to have their voices heard, remember there is still a lot emotional baggage attached to this subject, from past and even recent policies, corporate and political.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Just another reason (the mindset, not necessarily just this particular desicion) that the UAW just plain sucks. I'm 100% sure that there are indiviuals in the UAW who work hard and are vary productive. But in an environment where you get rewarded (paid) the same whether you do you job right or not, and no one else is allowed to do it, people tend to not work as hard/well as they could/should.
In many conversations I've had with people who either were union, or worked in a union facility, lets just say the work ethic they discribed wasn't what you'd expect of your employees if you were the boss.
In many conversations I've had with people who either were union, or worked in a union facility, lets just say the work ethic they discribed wasn't what you'd expect of your employees if you were the boss.
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
posted by Red89GTA: Just another reason (the mindset, not necessarily just this particular desicion) that the UAW just plain sucks. I'm 100% sure that there are indiviuals in the UAW who work hard and are vary productive. But in an environment where you get rewarded (paid) the same whether you do you job right or not, and no one else is allowed to do it, people tend to not work as hard/well as they could/should.
In many conversations I've had with people who either were union, or worked in a union facility, lets just say the work ethic they discribed wasn't what you'd expect of your employees if you were the boss.
In many conversations I've had with people who either were union, or worked in a union facility, lets just say the work ethic they discribed wasn't what you'd expect of your employees if you were the boss.
What makes everyone make assumptions and conclusions about what goes on in a UAW work force??
Why not ask some people that actually work there?
I'll give honest unbiased answers to anyone, I won't profit one way or the other...trust me, I'm the first one to point out their flaws, but standing for American Jobs ISN'T one of them..
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
This really presents a problem. I'm all for buying American and I always do. But I'm really put out by the anti-Bush attitude. Last time I checked, George is an American too. By speaking out agains Bush, in my opinion, they are not supporting America - no matter who's in office. If this is the way the UAW feels, then maybe my loyalty to them is missguided and I can buy foreign afterall. It works both ways!
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Originally Posted by 90rocz
You know, for a bunch of "politically correct" views being displayed here, there sure are some strong stereotypical comments being thrown at the UAW.
Discrimination is hardest seen in one's self.
Should you be supportive or tollerant of people who are proud to display their support of a political party bent on destroying your livelyhood?
When parked at the UAW lot, it would appear that they too supported those political forces.
While there seems to be a more pollitically correct movement(universal tollerance) going on, the UAW still stands for something, namely American jobs that are diapearing at an alarming rate. Standing for something means making decisions based on principal whether "politically correct" or not.
It's easily to take pot-shots at an organization that is opposed to Big Buisness Heirarchy, given almost all of the press is owned, in one way or another, by Big Buisness. Given a repeated bombardment of lies and half-truths and exaggerations, I can see why there such deep rooted stereotypes.
Like I said, we have people driving and parking foreign cars and sadly a "few" that had Bush stickers on them, at my UAW facility. Ignorance of what they support is all we oppose, and trying to get them to research, beyond the media, what they stand for is the best way to seek changes.
There are still many people in the UAW that have had to take strong stands to have their voices heard, remember there is still a lot emotional baggage attached to this subject, from past and even recent policies, corporate and political.
Discrimination is hardest seen in one's self.
Should you be supportive or tollerant of people who are proud to display their support of a political party bent on destroying your livelyhood?
When parked at the UAW lot, it would appear that they too supported those political forces.
While there seems to be a more pollitically correct movement(universal tollerance) going on, the UAW still stands for something, namely American jobs that are diapearing at an alarming rate. Standing for something means making decisions based on principal whether "politically correct" or not.
It's easily to take pot-shots at an organization that is opposed to Big Buisness Heirarchy, given almost all of the press is owned, in one way or another, by Big Buisness. Given a repeated bombardment of lies and half-truths and exaggerations, I can see why there such deep rooted stereotypes.
Like I said, we have people driving and parking foreign cars and sadly a "few" that had Bush stickers on them, at my UAW facility. Ignorance of what they support is all we oppose, and trying to get them to research, beyond the media, what they stand for is the best way to seek changes.
There are still many people in the UAW that have had to take strong stands to have their voices heard, remember there is still a lot emotional baggage attached to this subject, from past and even recent policies, corporate and political.
Sorry, you only dig your UAW hole a little deeper telling those of us with a different point of view that we are "ignorant" and "devoid of knowledge".
If what I am is ignorant, I'll take that as a compliment and consider it better than a being UAW lacky, being told what to do, what to say, and how to vote, thank you very much.
The irony here is astounding.
Last edited by Bob Cosby; Mar 13, 2005 at 07:21 PM.
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25thTA, brother do some research on your own, see for yourself, Bush doesn't " support America". His policy history proves it, his loyalty seems to be centered around Big Buisness.
Does NOT allowing Senior Citizens to import lower priced Medicines from Canada, support America or Big Buisness???
Did allowing Haliburton exclusive contracts in Iraq, support America, or the company they own Big interests in.
These are just 2 examples off the top of my head...I can dig up MANY more if you like...
I ain't mad at you, your just a victom of the "Game", and they've got serious "game"...
Does NOT allowing Senior Citizens to import lower priced Medicines from Canada, support America or Big Buisness???
Did allowing Haliburton exclusive contracts in Iraq, support America, or the company they own Big interests in.
These are just 2 examples off the top of my head...I can dig up MANY more if you like...
I ain't mad at you, your just a victom of the "Game", and they've got serious "game"...
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Re: UAW kicks out Marines with foreign cars.
Originally Posted by 90rocz
Like I said, we have people driving and parking foreign cars and sadly a "few" that had Bush stickers on them, at my UAW facility. Ignorance of what they support is all we oppose, and trying to get them to research, beyond the media, what they stand for is the best way to seek changes.
Since "ignorance of what they support is all we oppose", what if someone meticulously researched the parties and came to the conclusion that for them, Bush is the better man. Could they then park in your parking lot? Somehow I don't think the Marines' decisions were that closely examined.
Last edited by R377; Mar 13, 2005 at 07:31 PM.