Translation:

23.4 US jobs are created for every 100 GM/Ford/DCX vehicles sold
13.3 US jobs are created for every 100 Japanese vehicles sold

So buying American DOES create more US jobs, and buying an import IS NOT the same.

 

Ah, no. It means that there are 23.4 people employed HERE (in the U.S.) in support of building 100 vehicles, vs. 13.3 for the Japanese (the rest of their support jobs being in Japan, or somewhere else).

That may not have been clear in centric's abbreviated posting (he just said "jobs"), but I think it was more clear when Red Planet posted it.

That's how I took it anyway.

EDIT: Do'h!! Centric beat me to it.

 

Harsh words... but I don't disagree!

 

YES - Toyotas are appliances in my eyes. As 96_Camaro_B4C said, the typical Toyota purchase is for transportation, not showing, racing, styling or for anything non-typical.
Take me to a Toyota show where 1500 people bring their cars from all over the country to show them, cruise in them, drag race them, and road race them. Show me the spirit and soul that a Corolla or Camry stirs in ANYBODY the way a Mustang or Camaro does.
I'll say it again... APPLIANCE.

And if you really want to pizz me off, go to every quick-stop you can and buy every one of those ribbons at every store and put them all on your appliance. THAT would have me so ill I couldn't see straight (from the tears of laughter! ) Knock yourself out.

 

Awesome response.

 

Why should I suffer economic loss trying to support a sinking ship? Sure, to "help GM" (it needs all the help in the world) I would go out and buy something in my price range, let's say a Colbalt SS? Let's say, like any cheap J-body-ish car, it turns out to squeak, rattle and become a huge piece of ****. "Help me GM"
"No," GM will say, "go f*ck yourelf. You, like many other ignorant people, bought one of the mass-produced pieces of garbage we made, and discounted repeatedly so people would be dumb enough to buy one; you're on your own, pal!"

However I do recall a few years ago I asked GM where I could get the owner's manual to the 86 Buick Lesabre we had. OLD car, they shouldn't have given a ****, right? Well, somebody there, instead of being like "K go to this store and buy one" they just sent one over for free, paid for the postage and everything. It wasn't a computer, either because somebody hand-wrote my address and took the time. That was really nice of them!

And that Buick was an awsome car. It's just too bad somebody upstairs who calls the shots f*cks EVERYTHING up!

Toyota: The entry-model Echo is built with the same quality as the top-model Avalon

GM: The top model Cadillac is built just as poorly as the base J-bodies.

I don't know what's going on, but it seems like they want to lose business or something. I really want to buy the new Camaro when it comes out! I don't WANT GM to die, but sadly enough I couldn't depend on any vehicles in the current lineup when I was buying a car, to last me very long.

Hopefully Bob Lutz can turn things around but the cheap f*ck in charge right now just wants profit. And POS union leaders want so many rights.

How many times do I hear "I'd buy an American car if they lasted over 60,000 miles."
The image needs to change. Come on, GM be the best again!

 

The Supra, Celica, MR2, etc. all do quite well in shows, thank-you very much.
BTW Comparing a Corolla and Camry to a Mustang and Camaro...
They're meant to go up against more or less the new FWD Malibus and Impalas.

 

Have you been in a Cobalt or a new Cadillac jimbo? They ride nothing like the older GM cars and if you try and make a comment like that, you are just showing ignorance and bias.

 

I don't even know where to start with that.....give me a ****ing break.

 

I agree. Hopefully he was kidding. However there are many, many people that stand behind this "reason" and why they wont buy a domestic vehicle.

I'm all for buying what you want. If they Big 3 dont offer what you want, then dont buy anything from them. If you do, then thats kinda dumb, because you should put your money into something you like. However, if you do buy an imported vehicle or a vehicle with more imported parts than domestic, dont go into "making excuses" mode to defend your purchase. Just say it, you LOVE your import and you dont care what it does to the economy or how it affects the country. Please do not make excuses making it sound as if buying that import is helping the economy more than if you bought something with more domestic content. Whether they build it here or not, the money all goes one place, right back to Asia or Europe. If not then why would they even do business here?

 

Geez, I can't beleive they wouldn't want to let everyone see, just exactly what it is they're adding to The American landscape, with their transplants, besides the TONS of people, they employ!

 

Yeah, I have. Caddies depreciate almost as quickly as Land Rovers do!
After like, 4 years the Deville is easily in the high teens, low 20s for one in excellent condition.
While Cadillac IS improving, it hasn't reached its potential yet. Compare it to it's competition; Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, Audi. No contest. Sorry Cadillac, try harder.

But can you imagine how much of a MESS GM would be in if people only bought American cars? They'd still have cheap-o digi-dashes, and spew oil after 20,000 miles. Competition is causing them to improve. You have to admit whoever calls the shots @ GM is a dumb f*ck. Look, Impala SS. RWD v8. Yay. Then it died. a FWD Impala replaced it. People got sore. So An Impy SS came...V6 FWD. People complained, then GM sticks out a FWD V8!
Their excuse? "Most people can't handle a RWD car"


BMW, Audi, Lexus, Mercedes, some Cadillacs now, Chrysler, Infiniti, etc. Everything is going RWD and it's SELLING!!! Why is GM so stupid?! Bring that Holden thing and make it the El Camino SS. Advertise it. Make the GTO well known. Advertise it. Stop making cheap **** mass produced f*cking J-bodys.
Make the Envoy with enough quality to compete with the 4runner. Nevermind a strong engine. Although it's important, people look at OTHER things too. It's NOT that hard to use better quality parts, screw them together with more precision, etc.
I bet I could run GM better than whoever is doing it right now.
Honestly, just for comparitive reasons....

http://images.autobytel.com/view/aic...fulldash_x.jpg

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos....19_346x270.jpg

 

Oh god, you're back with more of your un-founded, biased, crack-pipe-smoking responses again? Crap...

1) CTS has proven Caddy resale value is NOT in the toilet anymore, at least for the new models. Go price out what an '02 CTS sells for versus what the MSRP was almost 4 model years ago, and get back to me on it...you'll be surprised.
2) I have 3 GM cars in my driveway with nearly 60k on it. Not one of them has even a slight issue, and not one of them is anywhere near dead. My highest mileage GM I ever owned had 130k on it when I sold it THREE YEARS AGO, and the girl who has it now still owns it and loves it with 175k on it...'95 Grand Am.
3) Did you even BOTHER looking American before buying that little tin can you have to rev to 7k to make it move? And YES, I HAVE driven a Corolla XRS...did you bother to drive a Cobalt SS before buying? What makes your Corolla any better? And do NOT tell me its interior quality, because that's a load of pure crap.
4) Have you checked out VW quality lately? I have FIVE friends with VWs...4 will not buy another. Everything from water leaks to transmission problems...but you owned one, and I'm sure yours was great....right?

Give it a rest...you're basing your opinion on 10-15 years ago, at best.

 

Hey well at least it is good to know we are both laughing------even if it is at each other