Toyota to ease GM's pain
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I also have news for you. A Corolla is a Prizm, as you know. I get '02 Prizms at the auction all day long for 6k. Sold for about 14-15k new. Yeah, they have great resale. And in case you're wondering, a like Corolla sells wholesale for $1,000 more, so it isn't the fact that one says Chevy and one says Toyota. With unbiased opinions like yours, no wonder this country will be out of work in 15 years when we don't actually MAKE anything anymore...
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Actually the Corolla is built in Canada, just like the F-body. 
So you can say whateverrr you want about us but in the end you're supporting Canadian workers. Remember GM builds a LOT of their vehicles in Canada, taking jobs away from Americans. Then makes AMERICANS buy the Canadian-built cars.
Honda and Toyota base a lot of their plants in the US of A. Isn't GM chanelling out a lot of their engines and parts to the Chinese? And making a lot of the new cars rebadged Korean vehicles?
So you can say whateverrr you want about us but in the end you're supporting Canadian workers. Remember GM builds a LOT of their vehicles in Canada, taking jobs away from Americans. Then makes AMERICANS buy the Canadian-built cars.
Honda and Toyota base a lot of their plants in the US of A. Isn't GM chanelling out a lot of their engines and parts to the Chinese? And making a lot of the new cars rebadged Korean vehicles?
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
You can laugh cause I really don't give a ****. If I want to sell my car in let's say, 2 years, I would lose next to nothing on it because the resale is so high. Can you say that about a GM car?
Or how about the fact that Toyotas have a reputation for not f*cking breaking? GM is known throughout the whole automotive industry as being a POS. Didn't your "mighty GM" just recall a few million vehicles for something as simple as a seatbelt design flaw? What is this, the 50s?
I refuse to be loyal to a company like GM who has its head too far in its ***. I refuse to buy a GM because I know it would lose all its value in 20 minutes when the door panels decide to fall off.
When I can have this car for 10 years with minimal (if any) problems and still a strong resale value, I'll come out ahead.
The funny thing is Toyota is a good investment and you're too stupid to see it. If I kept my Corolla for 4 years, I could trade it in at that time for a damn 05 Escalade if I wanted. Straight across too, because they'd both be worth the same amount of $$$ in 4 years.
GM cars are LOW quality. Because you can't see that doesn't mean other people have to suffer for it. GM's service is horrible, too. So maybe you should laugh at yourself for buying a car from a company that charged you upwards of 24 thousand for a car that won't be worth its weight in dust.
Keep laughing though, "Oh haha he bought a Corolla," cause when GM tells you to F*ck off and you can't sell your car for enough to buy an 88 Tercel...
Or how about the fact that Toyotas have a reputation for not f*cking breaking? GM is known throughout the whole automotive industry as being a POS. Didn't your "mighty GM" just recall a few million vehicles for something as simple as a seatbelt design flaw? What is this, the 50s?
I refuse to be loyal to a company like GM who has its head too far in its ***. I refuse to buy a GM because I know it would lose all its value in 20 minutes when the door panels decide to fall off.
When I can have this car for 10 years with minimal (if any) problems and still a strong resale value, I'll come out ahead.
The funny thing is Toyota is a good investment and you're too stupid to see it. If I kept my Corolla for 4 years, I could trade it in at that time for a damn 05 Escalade if I wanted. Straight across too, because they'd both be worth the same amount of $$$ in 4 years.
GM cars are LOW quality. Because you can't see that doesn't mean other people have to suffer for it. GM's service is horrible, too. So maybe you should laugh at yourself for buying a car from a company that charged you upwards of 24 thousand for a car that won't be worth its weight in dust.
Keep laughing though, "Oh haha he bought a Corolla," cause when GM tells you to F*ck off and you can't sell your car for enough to buy an 88 Tercel...
Re: Toyota to ease GM's pain
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Originally Posted by BigDarknFast
Thanks for helping make my point mr00jimbo
Why don't you run along now and go back to be with your fellow import worshippers.
Why don't you run along now and go back to be with your fellow import worshippers.
Sorry that GM suffered a 1.1 billion dollar loss in the first quarter, but it's their fault. F*ck it I ain't gonna buy a GM since the dealerships don't give a f*ck about the customers, the recalls are plentiful and the resale seems pretty bad.
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Due to inferior quality, reliability and horrible dealership treatment, former GM enthusiasts are turning to other companies for a quality car?
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ZERO problem with the 4 GM vehicles I've owned over the past 15 years...wish I could say the same for my wife's Honda. Yay imports
A Corolla Even if I fed off the false pretense that my car if falling apart as you say, I'd take the risk in order to not be seen in that thing.
A Corolla
Even if I fed off the false pretense that my car if falling apart as you say, I'd take the risk in order to not be seen in that thing.
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
What's your point? Due to inferior quality, reliability and horrible dealership treatment, former GM enthusiasts are turning to other companies for a quality car?
Sorry that GM suffered a 1.1 billion dollar loss in the first quarter, but it's their fault. F*ck it I ain't gonna buy a GM since the dealerships don't give a f*ck about the customers, the recalls are plentiful and the resale seems pretty bad.
Sorry that GM suffered a 1.1 billion dollar loss in the first quarter, but it's their fault. F*ck it I ain't gonna buy a GM since the dealerships don't give a f*ck about the customers, the recalls are plentiful and the resale seems pretty bad.
It is something GM to be concerned about though if this how youth views GM.
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
The funny thing is Toyota is a good investment and you're too stupid to see it. If I kept my Corolla for 4 years, I could trade it in at that time for a damn 05 Escalade if I wanted. Straight across too, because they'd both be worth the same amount of $$$ in 4 years.
$9,590
KBB Private Party value for a 2002 Escalade with 50K miles:
$31,720
STFU you troll.
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Check a Cavalier and see how it's value drops like a rock with a jet engine on it.
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last time i checked my 04 Colorado Sport with like 7k miles on it was worth 11k. sticker price was 25k. ya thats not dropping like a rock. ive owned it since july of last year (aka not even a year) and value has dropped over HALF.
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Originally Posted by Shackleford
The other guy specifically used a Corolla and Escalade in his example, incompetent.
Many GM vehicles drop in value faster than certain other comparable vehicles. Malibu to Camry, Cavalier to Corolla.
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I think it's funny how GM lures you guys in by telling you you'll be gay to own an import. That seems to be the only reason you guys buy them. "Well my Blazer squeaks and rattles and leaks power steering fluid and is in the shop more than it isn't but uh....at least I'm not GAY!"
Maybe if some of you solved your insecurities you'd be further ahead and more inclined to make better automotive descisions. I bought a Toyota because GM's resale value was the *****, their quality was sub-par and the reputation of any of their service departments around here is a pretty unpleasent experience. When people hear "Corolla" they get turned off, but go sit in one, drive one, and then make your choice. I'm not talking about a base-model CE rental car, either. Go drive an XRS, or at least ride in one. I got a lot of **** for buying one from ALL my friends but once they SAW it and rode in it they all were quick to change their opinions.
But nonetheless, GM thrives off ignorant car buyers who don't seem to care that their cars are worth jack **** within 2-3 years, it's the only reason they're still around.
Maybe if some of you solved your insecurities you'd be further ahead and more inclined to make better automotive descisions. I bought a Toyota because GM's resale value was the *****, their quality was sub-par and the reputation of any of their service departments around here is a pretty unpleasent experience. When people hear "Corolla" they get turned off, but go sit in one, drive one, and then make your choice. I'm not talking about a base-model CE rental car, either. Go drive an XRS, or at least ride in one. I got a lot of **** for buying one from ALL my friends but once they SAW it and rode in it they all were quick to change their opinions.
But nonetheless, GM thrives off ignorant car buyers who don't seem to care that their cars are worth jack **** within 2-3 years, it's the only reason they're still around.
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
Didn't your "mighty GM" just recall a few million vehicles for something as simple as a seatbelt design flaw? What is this, the 50s?
What year was it again. A good friend of mine is a Lexus tech so please don't preach your high and mighty . The guys that are supposed to be the ever so high and mighty sure do complain alot about having to do so much warranty work . Lexus's customer service second to absolutely no one , but the cars arent exactly trouble free 
We shouldnt even go back to the early to mid 90's ES 300's ooooor the Current RX line , hahaha . The same tech I was talkign about earlier has already 2 engine replacements in the current gen RX , its been out how long . Looks like they not only targeted german engineering ( their implacations in their commercials , not mine ) , but also there shoty quality record as well . Do a little homework before u cast a godly halo over Toyota . Their average , hey how bout that 
When I can have this car for 10 years with minimal (if any) problems and still a strong resale value, I'll come out ahead.
People like u kill me dude . Your about as funny as the girl somehwere in this forum within the past week talking bout how her Matrix and its vaulted quality and resale over GM vehicles . Hmm , 1/2 your car was designed by GM
And Im sure that deal woulda went over a lil better if an ecotec was under the hood , rather than toyota's torqueless 9K rpm 4 bangers .
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But nonetheless, GM thrives off ignorant car buyers who don't seem to care that their cars are worth jack **** within 2-3 years, it's the only reason they're still around.
Ignorant is: buying an Import b/c you still think it's 1985 and Import's are superior.
September 15, 2004
Toyota Motor Corp., Asia's largest automaker, said Tuesday it will recall about 646,000 vehicles starting today to fix the brakes in four models.
Toyota Motor Corp., Asia's largest automaker, said Tuesday it will recall about 646,000 vehicles starting today to fix the brakes in four models.
TOYOTA / TUNDRA 2004-2005
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 05V123000 Recall Date : MAR 28, 2005
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 5726
THE EXHAUST PIPE FLANGE MAY RUB AGAINST THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE LINE WHICH COULD CAUSE BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE. THIS COULD LEAD TO AN INCREASE OF VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 05V123000 Recall Date : MAR 28, 2005
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 5726
THE EXHAUST PIPE FLANGE MAY RUB AGAINST THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE LINE WHICH COULD CAUSE BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE. THIS COULD LEAD TO AN INCREASE OF VEHICLE STOPPING DISTANCE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
TOKYO April 12, 2005; Yuri Kageyama writing for the AP reported that Mitsubishi Motors Corp., a Japanese automaker whose sales have plunged on recurring recalls, has announced another recall affecting 179,000 cars for a defect in the air conditioning system that caused at least two injuries.
The recall reported to the government Tuesday is the latest in a spate of recalls for the money-losing Tokyo-based automaker. Mitsubishi Motors' reputation has been badly tarnished after acknowledging five years ago it had systematically hidden auto defects for decades.
The recall reported to the government Tuesday is the latest in a spate of recalls for the money-losing Tokyo-based automaker. Mitsubishi Motors' reputation has been badly tarnished after acknowledging five years ago it had systematically hidden auto defects for decades.