http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...C01-162413.htm

I bought a Toyota. I didn't even think about GM cause I knew they'd treat me like ****, my car would die and the warranty work would be just as bad as my dad's last GM car. Even with their company going downhill they still can't see straight?

 

Yep, I saw that posted in the 5th gen forum. The people in there are very angry and insulted over this. lol

 

Dude, this has been posted, and besides that, later articles came out where the Toyota boss basically retracted his comments.

Have fun with your XRS, though... :blah:

BTW, what the hell does this article about Toyota have to do with "even though their company is going downhill, they can't see straight." ??

 

Nate me and you both bought 2005 Toyotas. I'm sure if GM had their head on straight they would have gotten our business, but almost seems like they didn't want it with their POS dealership service, ugly and tacky cars, resale values, etc.
Oh well.

 

I know, call me an old man, but I've recently been tossing the idea around of buying one of those new Avalons. A limited with the rain-sensing wipers, keyless start, heated/cooled/ventilated seats, reclining rear seats, etc, would be pretty nice IMO.

Then the other side of me says "you're way too young for that... get an IS250 or IS350 when they come out this fall".

Then the last side of me says "your car now is 110% fine, you don't need to waste your money on a new car until your wife starts working full time".

*sigh*. It's a curse. I can never stop gawking over new cars.

 

GM needs to get their head out of their ***!

My boss said he wouldn't be suprised if GM went under by 2008.

I think I read somewhere way back when that a Vette costs GM like $5000 to build. Don't know how true that is though. If it is true then GM can come down on their markup for starters.

 

GM is ****ed because of labor unions. People getting paid $40 an hour to sit at an assembly line all day.

 

LMAO! Uh, no. If GM were making 45,000 profit on their vehicles, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now... And it isn't like they have trouble moving Corvettes, so evidently the "markup" on those is fair to enough people...

 

there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL that they build a Vette for 5,000

 

Well, even if it is not true, GM has vehicles that just fall apart at the seams. What about all the horror stories of the 97-99 Grand Prix's? I have read plenty of places where headlight ***. fall off and the interior is cheap and goes to hell pretty quick. Also the transmissions in them refered to as glass. I have heard the 00+ are built better though.

I wonder how much it cost to build one of those?

Edit - The only reason I know this is because I was looking into buying a GP GTP for awhile and did some research.

 

I don't think GM will go under, especially by 2008. They are the largest auto manufacturer in the worl and own other companies as well (allison transmission etc) They are in the worst spot they've been in for a LONG time but I don't think it's the end at all.

 

^Right. The LS6 ALONE would cost about that or even more.

 

True, but I read that years ago a.k.a late Lt1/early LS1 days. I never said it was true BTW, just quoting what I remember reading.

 

Not accusing you, just trying to help you

 

When did this become www.sciontc.com?

Everyone is trading F-body's in on them?

All this time GM has been working to match Toyota in quality...who would thought it would take some neons, and a fart pipe to move cars?

Who needs horsepower....it has NEON's!