Because GM still hasn't matched Toyota in quality? The Cobalt comes in at more expensive than the tC when comparably equipped to the base model, and much slower as well. The reason the tC is an attractive car to many is it's a good vehicle, a good reputation for reliability because it's a Toyota, comes loaded out with most of the desirable options (mp3 player, rims, moonroof) instead of silly crap like OnStar. Also, I don't know anyone who's tCs have the light option in them, but stuff like a tasteful factory exhaust is a great option to offer consumers. Let me guess, I should have bought a Cavalier or a Focus just because they're American? To beat the HP on my car by any significant amount, I'd have to spend 22k or so on a Cobalt SS or an SRT-4. The car I decided to buy offered me all of the features I wanted, with very competitive HP for it's price range, and an awesome price. What GM product should I have bought for $17,000 when I needed a new car? An Aveo?

GM abandoned me in 2002. I'm not going to go buy a Grand Prix or an old beat up used car just to support a company that doesn't feel like making a car for me anymore. It always seems to be the guys driving around in 10+ year old cars who are "die hard" and complaining about all the "lousy imports".

Some of us need a newer car, and can't drive a 3rd gen 60 miles to work every day.

 

In which case I would have to say
*tips his hat to the Unions* Well done fellas!

 

AGREED.

 

This post was originally in the lounge and got moved here. All the people in the lounge own Scions and as Threxx put it "have no issue buying the emporer a new Komono".

They never come in the 5th Gen forum because they could give a rats as less.

 

Can't say I hang in the lounge, but I felt as a Scion tC owner on this forum I was the target of your post.

 

big business is just too damn greedy. the big businesses charge more per vehicle to make the shareholders happy with increased profit. with that it is harder for the blue collar worker to afford the cars he/she makes and in turn need to make more money per hour to afford things. all in all, it's just a big viscious circle. i'm not even going to touch the issue of health care.

 

I agree with making the shareholders happy, but I wouldn't call it "greedy" big business when GM is in the red so far this year, and Ford and DCX (and others) are making modest profits... (they are allowed to make profits, yes?).

 

Me? I don't remember saying that. Heck, I did a search (spelling it komono only brought this thread, and spelling it kimono brought up only one other thread with nothing to do with cars at all)

 

Wow, you bought a Toyota Corolla and you call gm cars ugly and tacky

When you're ready to spend more than $12,000 on a new car, come and give us your expert input. Until then enjoy your Toyota Corolla

 

How did you become such an expert on cars when you drove a 98 VW and now you drive a freakin Corolla?

Do spend your days test driving cars? By looking at your car purchases, I'm sure you don't have much experience with anything worth talking about.

 

You can laugh cause I really don't give a ****. If I want to sell my car in let's say, 2 years, I would lose next to nothing on it because the resale is so high. Can you say that about a GM car?
Or how about the fact that Toyotas have a reputation for not f*cking breaking? GM is known throughout the whole automotive industry as being a POS. Didn't your "mighty GM" just recall a few million vehicles for something as simple as a seatbelt design flaw? What is this, the 50s?

I refuse to be loyal to a company like GM who has its head too far in its ***. I refuse to buy a GM because I know it would lose all its value in 20 minutes when the door panels decide to fall off.
When I can have this car for 10 years with minimal (if any) problems and still a strong resale value, I'll come out ahead.

The funny thing is Toyota is a good investment and you're too stupid to see it. If I kept my Corolla for 4 years, I could trade it in at that time for a damn 05 Escalade if I wanted. Straight across too, because they'd both be worth the same amount of $$$ in 4 years.

GM cars are LOW quality. Because you can't see that doesn't mean other people have to suffer for it. GM's service is horrible, too. So maybe you should laugh at yourself for buying a car from a company that charged you upwards of 24 thousand for a car that won't be worth its weight in dust.

Keep laughing though, "Oh haha he bought a Corolla," cause when GM tells you to F*ck off and you can't sell your car for enough to buy an 88 Tercel...

 

And killerTA, how are you such an expert of what's quality if you drive an F-body?

 

 

Are you really that retarded? No offense...just curious if that really is your un-biased, all-knowing opinion...

Sorry if that's your opinion, but that really is the stupidest thing I've read on here yet. I'll go home now in my nice 4 year old GP that hasn't given me a moment's trouble, thanks.

 

Nevermind, don't answer that. You really are that retarded. Follow the heard mentality. Yeah, GM cars have real crappy resale. My GP has 47% resale after 4 years...Honda Accord? 49%. Yeah...GM sucks.