Wow.

Talk about ironies!

 

Hey guys. Owning a Nissan Frontier and after keeping up with the Titan for almost a year, I can tell you this new Titan is a hoss of a truck. Just look at the chassis. Fully boxed ladder frame and the axles are from Dana (based on the Dana 44). The brakes are Bosch and it comes from the factory with Rancho shocks. It also comes with a standard 5-speed automatic transmission too. The all aluminum 5.6 liter V8 has a really flat torque curve, with a lot of grunt way down low. With 379 lb-ft of torque, 90% of that below 2,500 rpm and a full 80% on tap at 1,000 rpm (beat that!). My dad has an 03 Z71 (fully loaded ext cab) and is tired of it and about to switch to the Titan or possibly F-150. The thing feels like it has a very weak drivetrain with lots of play. He's taken it to the dealer many times complaining about how much play is in it (feels like bad u-joints) but they keep telling him all the new Chevy's and GMC's have that problem and that's just the way they are. He's also had numerous transfer case problems, exhaust leaks, and too many error codes to count. The interiors are nice, but take a closer look at the Titan's. Also, the rear doors on the extended cab Titan swing out almost 180 degrees.

And another thing (though a couple of people have beaten me to it), is that it is more American than the domestics.

Trust me, it's a nice truck and there are MANY other features that would take up too much space here.

A brand new Armada rolled through my campus the other day and I swear there wasn't a person NOT staring at that thing. A few people actually stopped and watched it drive by. It has a "presence" about it. It's a hoss and so is the Titan.

 

May we all bow down to the mighty, all knowing, perfect Japanese auto manufacturers.

 

credit where credit is due....

 

I think it looks like a nice truck but Nissan kinda shot themselves in the foot on this one. First off, introducing it around the same time as the new F150 was probly not the best decision out there. I'm not a Ford guy by any means but that new Ford is one damn nice truck and it's going to be hard for anyone to out do it right now. Second off, the new F-150 when it was still in speculation to the public for specs it was leaked that it had a 9000 lb capacity which is more than other competing brands so ironically when these two trucks came out nissan too had a 9000 lb rating but Ford actually jumped to 9200 or 9300 I can't remember. Just funny how that worked out. I'll still stick to my GM products for now because they are still a very Fine product. Don't forget that there is a reason that the Silverado has been Truck of the year Three years in a row. However, there is work to be done and if this is what is expected as a minimum for the next GM truck then the future is very bright for us!

 

Ya know, all these people who rationalize buying a Japanese vehicle by saying "it was built here in the states" or other statements along those lines are just fooling themselves.
These vehicles (and some of their components) may be ASSEMBLED in the U.S., but that is it.

If they would let themselves realize that the majority of the money a Japanese automaker makes from a sale of an American assembled vehicle goes back to Japan, maybe they would rethink their decision.

 

You are exactly right.

 

Did you not read what slt wrote? Scroll up and look. Yeah, Japan might make money off of sales, but think about all the jobs they are producing here. With unemployment like it is and all of our "American" companies selling out and taking jobs to other countries, I think it's pretty damn cool that a foreign company is losing some money to keep jobs over here.

Either way, as morb|d said... give "credit where credit is due." And this is a fine truck.

I'm not knocking American companies at all, I'm just pointing out how great of a product Nissan is putting out. If you can't stand that, blow me.

 

Maybe the big 3 should try to take over the Japanese car market, and start building factories over there. Flood Japan with American cars, trucks and suvs, lol. ok crazy but its an idea.

 

I'm old school, if its made by honda, nissan, or toyota, I dont want it.

 

Here's some "American Made" news for contrast ...

http://www.autonews.com/news.cms?newsId=7156

At least Ford's profit stays in the US

....and how about this quote:

... from this article.

http://www.tradealert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=858

 

wait, you're saying we shouldn't just burry our heads in the sand and "BUY 'MERICAN"???

 

I with you, but one MAJOR thing is in the way, the Japanese are so much more loyal than us americans. They wouldn't buy our products, despite them being as good or better. Yet the stupid american will buy an import because Consumer Reports was biased towards the import and said it was better.

 

Cept when up until a year or two ago, the parts on a buic century in a 2001 model, are the sames ones that were used in 1996?

Up until lutz came to GM, and I had a choice when buying my car.....

There it was on the parking lot, a 2002 Chevy Camaro SS Red - $26,000 after rebates.


Bought mine used, a 93 Chevy Camaro Red, when 90% of hte interior look/feel is the same, and besides the engine, lt1/ls1, I get a neon looking front clip, just stretched out.

when in the same time, 10 years, the camry or whatever had more redesigns than gm did for all their cars.

The only GM company that had descent interiors were the Oldsmobile and Caddies,

I sat in my friends 2001 Cavalier, and I would not be able to tell a damn bit of difference from an 86 cavalier.

And this new titan, defnitely going to give it a test drive, and hopefully pick one up. either that or hte nfew F-150. Dont get me wrong, I love My Camaro and our Caprice's, but unless you can afford a Caddie, there is nothing great about GM right now besides the Vette. The only hope is the GTO, CTS, and the new caddie cars. Admit it, if it were not for Lutz, gm would be way downhill, the only way GM staying afloat is selling cars with rebates, and more rebates.