View Poll Results: The 5th gen Camaro SS should....
be dropped completely.



13
16.88%
kept as it is.



58
75.32%
changed to be affordable to entry level buyers.



6
7.79%
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Originally posted by steves
Sorry but thats how it is in the Chicago area at least. I don't think that way. For some reason people (around here at least) don't look at a Camaro as a serious car (that is probably one of the reasons they were such slow sellers). I notice around where I live that the typical person you would expect to want/buy a Camaro is buying a new/used M3.
Sorry but thats how it is in the Chicago area at least. I don't think that way. For some reason people (around here at least) don't look at a Camaro as a serious car (that is probably one of the reasons they were such slow sellers). I notice around where I live that the typical person you would expect to want/buy a Camaro is buying a new/used M3.
Yes...many people out here consider Camaros as "little kids' cars".
I think we need to work on that.
Originally posted by IZ28
I'm with Guion, I never hear that stuff. When you guys grow up you'll realize that stereotypes are stupid and ignorant and are not the normal, people with sense ignore BS like that.
I'm with Guion, I never hear that stuff. When you guys grow up you'll realize that stereotypes are stupid and ignorant and are not the normal, people with sense ignore BS like that.
Originally posted by Z284ever
I've seen that too. When you get past a certain age...oh say 25-30y.o....and you tell people you like Camaros, they'll look at you funny.
Yes...many people out here consider Camaros as "little kids' cars".
I think we need to work on that.
I've seen that too. When you get past a certain age...oh say 25-30y.o....and you tell people you like Camaros, they'll look at you funny.
Yes...many people out here consider Camaros as "little kids' cars".
I think we need to work on that.
And that's why Camaro needs to do better on the image front. It's not only about competing with Mustang. People considering a G35 Coupe should also be considering a Camaro. People interested in a 350Z or BMW 330i should also be interested in Camaro.
Peolple in there 40's and 50's shouldn't feel stigmatized about owning Camaros.....they should be envied.
Red....any comments?
Peolple in there 40's and 50's shouldn't feel stigmatized about owning Camaros.....they should be envied.
Red....any comments?
Originally posted by Z284ever
And that's why Camaro needs to do better on the image front. It's not only about competing with Mustang. People considering a G35 Coupe should also be considering a Camaro. People interested in a 350Z or BMW 330i should also be interested in Camaro.
Peolple in there 40's and 50's shouldn't feel stigmatized about owning Camaros.....they should be envied.
Red....any comments?
And that's why Camaro needs to do better on the image front. It's not only about competing with Mustang. People considering a G35 Coupe should also be considering a Camaro. People interested in a 350Z or BMW 330i should also be interested in Camaro.
Peolple in there 40's and 50's shouldn't feel stigmatized about owning Camaros.....they should be envied.
Red....any comments?
You are right.
I think a lot of you are underestimating Camaro a bit. There are those people that do think redneck etc. But there are many...and I mean MANY who get excited when they get to see the car up close or ride in it.
Many times I have gotten comments going through drive thru's. More than once it's been mistaken for being a Corvette. Younger Highschool age and early College students understand it's performance and are still drawn by it's looks. My sister (9 years younger than me) had a number of pics of students camaro's/firebirds in her High School yearbook and she just graduated this year. And then there are those that don't realize they made Camaro's through 2002 and are impressed with what they see.
The reputation needs a boost, but it's not in as bad a shape as it seems a number of people here believe. The lack of major updates since 93 hurt more than anything else.
Many times I have gotten comments going through drive thru's. More than once it's been mistaken for being a Corvette. Younger Highschool age and early College students understand it's performance and are still drawn by it's looks. My sister (9 years younger than me) had a number of pics of students camaro's/firebirds in her High School yearbook and she just graduated this year. And then there are those that don't realize they made Camaro's through 2002 and are impressed with what they see.
The reputation needs a boost, but it's not in as bad a shape as it seems a number of people here believe. The lack of major updates since 93 hurt more than anything else.
Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
The reputation needs a boost, but it's not in as bad a shape as it seems a number of people here believe. The lack of major updates since 93 hurt more than anything else.
The reputation needs a boost, but it's not in as bad a shape as it seems a number of people here believe. The lack of major updates since 93 hurt more than anything else.
The next one needs to be a FIRST RATE effort......no excuses.
Originally posted by PacerX
Question:
How many Z28's can one buy for the price of a real-deal ZL1?
Answer:
Nearly all of them.
Question:
How many Z28's can one buy for the price of a real-deal ZL1?
Answer:
Nearly all of them.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=171491
The Z28 should be the high performance model. It should come with a stock 12 bolt, built up trans, lightweight racing wheels and stripes, very stiff suspension. Basically race car ready just waiting for more hp.
The SS should be the Bling Bling appearance package with chrome 18 inch rims, hood, spoiler, underbody lights, tints, and a pounding system.
Both cars should drive completely different with the exception of the same powerful engine. The Z28 should feel like a true race car and the SS should feel like a luxury sedan.
The SS should be the Bling Bling appearance package with chrome 18 inch rims, hood, spoiler, underbody lights, tints, and a pounding system.
Both cars should drive completely different with the exception of the same powerful engine. The Z28 should feel like a true race car and the SS should feel like a luxury sedan.
The SS should be the Bling Bling appearance package with chrome 18 inch rims, hood, spoiler, underbody lights, tints, and a pounding system.
Originally posted by Black01_Z
The Z28 should be the high performance model. It should come with a stock 12 bolt, built up trans, lightweight racing wheels and stripes, very stiff suspension. Basically race car ready just waiting for more hp.
The SS should be the Bling Bling appearance package with chrome 18 inch rims, hood, spoiler, underbody lights, tints, and a pounding system.
Both cars should drive completely different with the exception of the same powerful engine. The Z28 should feel like a true race car and the SS should feel like a luxury sedan.
The Z28 should be the high performance model. It should come with a stock 12 bolt, built up trans, lightweight racing wheels and stripes, very stiff suspension. Basically race car ready just waiting for more hp.
The SS should be the Bling Bling appearance package with chrome 18 inch rims, hood, spoiler, underbody lights, tints, and a pounding system.
Both cars should drive completely different with the exception of the same powerful engine. The Z28 should feel like a true race car and the SS should feel like a luxury sedan.
I don't want any Camaro turned into an overblown "ricer".
Originally posted by Z284ever
Maybe not all of them, but certainly 5 or 6 of them.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=171491
Maybe not all of them, but certainly 5 or 6 of them.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/aucti....asp?id=171491
Numbers matching original Z/28's aren't cheap. 68's and 69's might go for $40-50K and an original 67 will easily be in the $50-70K region.
The SS should have all the options possible, anything available that can be thrown at it. Auto this, self adjusting that, it's own looks, (something every 5th model needs to have) and a nice, sharp, but compliant suspension. The Z28 should have limited options, high G suspension, bigger brakes, and don't leave out the stripes.
Last edited by IZ28; Aug 14, 2003 at 02:42 PM.
Originally posted by IZ28
The SS should have all the options possible, anything available that can be thrown at it. Auto this, self adjusting that, it's own looks, (something every 5th model needs to have) and a nice, sharp, but compliant suspension. The Z28 should have limited options, high G suspension, bigger brakes, and don't leave out the stripes.
The SS should have all the options possible, anything available that can be thrown at it. Auto this, self adjusting that, it's own looks, (something every 5th model needs to have) and a nice, sharp, but compliant suspension. The Z28 should have limited options, high G suspension, bigger brakes, and don't leave out the stripes.
Pretty much,
kinda like the 1st Gen. The SS would be the most bought model probably, the fast car you could drive everyday with all the luxuries while the Z28 would be all-performance focused and have a "2nd car" role.
I'd really like the Z28 emblem to become something to watch out for again. There wouldn't be that many around, but when you come across 1, look out!!
kinda like the 1st Gen. The SS would be the most bought model probably, the fast car you could drive everyday with all the luxuries while the Z28 would be all-performance focused and have a "2nd car" role.I'd really like the Z28 emblem to become something to watch out for again. There wouldn't be that many around, but when you come across 1, look out!!
Last edited by IZ28; Aug 14, 2003 at 04:49 PM.

