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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fastdog
Actually no. It's not amazing at all. Sunroof issues won't make the evening news... recalls and transmission do. I don't work for Nissan nor a Nissan dealer. What they have in their service dispatches is not something I'm aware of. I might however feel 22 pages on one of probaly a few websites dedicated to the 350z might be some indicator of a possible durability or design issue.
So you're saying that a company that takes sunroof issues so seriously would let a gearbox problem slip under the radar? Somehow I don't think so.


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Your experience differs from mine, I suppose. I do hang with a lot more roadracing folks than most.. still don't think that's it when discussing the 350z deal. I did my fair share of SCCA racing in A and B production classes... maybe we just hang in different circles.
It's funny that you don't remember how F-body power steering pumps used overheat before Chevy made a steering pump cooler optional.


Originally Posted by 1fastdog
Are you suggesting that an inordinate number of American drivers that are dyed in the wool powershifters are drawn to that car? Why? It's a slow car. I figure if a dealer pulled the trans and saw a scorched flywheel ther would be warranty denials, not replacements much less some multi replacements.
1. "Slow car?" A 6-speed 350Z is just about as quick as an unmodified 6-speed LT-1 F4.

2. Try reading posts sometimes. Apparently, there was enough suspicion of warranty voiding abuse/modifications that some posters had to pay for transmission replacements upfront - with reimbursement to follow only if the claim was legitimate. That's not a normal warranty proceedure, unless the company is dealing with abuse, modifications or fraud.



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Five year old car, older woman driver... not the "modding" kind of streetracer owner I would have asked for some adjustment from the manufacturer but she seemed to feel as you seem to... Imports don't brake unless an "idiot" drives them...
It's not the company's fault if a consumer is too timid to ask for some "good will."
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Far too many, but folks rarely understand what cold engine slap is, and even fewer understand what it isn't.
I understand what "piston slap" is. Do you?
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

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You don't remember how hot the Australian were over piston slap related oil consumption. More than a few Aussies didn't check their oil levels, ruined their LS-1 V8s and got free rebuilds from Holden. Now I'm the first one to say that if you don't check your oil, you should bear some responsibility for ruining your own engine.
Cold engine piston slap and oil consumption are not related.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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I understand what "piston slap" is. Do you?
Yes. Not sure you do though...

Stay out of the deep end of the pool.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Oh, ok. So F-body and Mustang manuals don't seem to break nearly as much because the aftermarket for those cars doesn't compare to that of the 350Z. And so in turn, the only "American idiot" manual drivers who modify their cars drive 350Zs and nothing else. I just want to make sure I know where you're coming from. Just tell me yes or no, is that your assertion?
1. The F4 has been gone so long that there will be precious few F-bodies left under factory warranty by the end of this year.

2. There is no statistical comparision between the failure rates for Tremec-build transmissions in F-bodies/Mustangs and the 6-speed in the 350Z. Unless you've done some "original research," your arguement is going nowhere.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

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1. The F4 has been gone so long that there will be precious few F-bodies left under factory warranty by the end of this year.
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WARRANTIES? More smokescreening?????

2. There is no statistical comparision between the failure rates for Tremec-build transmissions in F-bodies/Mustangs and the 6-speed in the 350Z.
I know of no "statistical" comparison available online, but then again I've never seen a 22 PAGE thread on CamaroZ28.com, or Stangnet, or anywhere else, about failing transmissions.

your arguement is going nowhere.
MY argument is going nowhere???? I have to hand it to you sir, you are a barrel of laughs. I'm wondering why you choose to ignore every rational and logical thought about this. And you STILL didn't answer my question, is it your assertion that the aftermarket and modding is more common among 350Z's with manuals than among F-bodies and Mustangs with manuals, yes or no? I think you're afraid to say yes because of how utterly dim-witted you'll appear to be.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Unless you've done some "original research," your arguement is going nowhere.
Therefore it also follows that all of your arguments have gone nowhere either. Maybe you should replace the 's in all of your posts with your own "original research."
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

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Cold engine piston slap and oil consumption are not related.
According to the Aussies, they were.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Hey, how about that Solstice? Great little roadster at an awesome price




....isn't that what this thread is supposed to be about?
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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I can't wait to see one at the dealer and sit in it and pretend its mine. I will bite the first salesman who tries to remove me.
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

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According to the Aussies, they were.
Then they were wrong mate.

Would you think the two are related? If yes...how?
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Then they were wrong mate.

Would you think the two are related? If yes...how?
I can't believe you don't see the connection between "piston slap" and a car burning oil?
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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My z28 slaps pretty loudly on these really cold winter mornings, but I have never burned any oil, at least none that I can notice. I know these engines are supposed to burn oil to some degree, but I haven't really experienced any significant reduction in oil at all, and my car has 35,000 miles on it. I check it very often as well. Maybe its just me
Old Feb 19, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

Originally Posted by redzed
I can't believe you don't see the connection between "piston slap" and a car burning oil?
Another instance where you oughta' know WTF you're talking about before you spout off.....

The oil usage issue has NOTHING to do with piston slap......it was an insufficient crankcase breathing / PVC issue, which has since been rectified a couple of years ago. Oil was being sucked into the throttle body and ingested.

Piston slap does not indicate any problem beyond being a nuisance noise.... IF the driver properly warms the engine before aggressive driving.....simply a difference of thermal expansion of dissimilar materials.....but that too has been addressed.

It's truly amazing that you continue to overlook a severe design flaw in the Nissan transmissions and blame the drivers.....

You might wanna drop your one man attack on GM and move on...it's really getting quite old.

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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Re: Solstice Pricing official: Well equipped starting at $19,995!

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I can't believe you don't see the connection between "piston slap" and a car burning oil?
Well believe it. Cold engine piston slap has ZERO to do with oil consumption.

So, if you please, explain the connection. Should be rather easy as you infer it's obvious.

It's your red herring so cook it for us...

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