I think he left his proof in his Internet cars that he could/would not produce a picture of in another thread. Second thread that I have noticed he ruined.

 

[QUOTE=Bob Cosby]My lawnmower has more torque than an S2000.

Have you driven one? It really isn't that bad. Oh and I will race your lawnmower any day of the week.

 

The "piston slap" issue was not limited to the alluminum block V8 and I'm not sure it's gone for good.

 

LOL. No, I haven't, and my comment was certainly meant in jest.

That said, the S2000 doesn't have much torque, but what it lacks in that department, it makes up for in RPM. HP = rpm * torque, so if you can make even a modest amount of torque at high rpm, and then gear the car to take advantage of it, you'll get quite a kick in the pants (so to speak).

 

Do you enjoy getting slapped around?

The aluminum block LS1 uses cast iron liners, so if it's a cast iron block or an aluminum block with cast iron sleeves, there's still the aluminum pistons in each.

The LS* based engines are leaders in technology and are the envy of other manufacturers.

The Dodge boys even copied most of the design in their (semi) HEMI (they had one of the LS1's in their design area where the (semi) HEMI was designed).

Your just digging yourself in deeper....in an area where you have no business going.....unless you enjoy the punishment.

 

I learned all about the ye ole saying "no replacement for displacement" owning a 3.8L Mustang (2002). From a line, I did great, from a roll, I was even with cars with half the engine (s2000 and rsx specifically).
I'm sure you'd feel slow in it, but I wouldn't. Relatively speaking, they're pretty fast.

 

The S2000 is relatively fast no matter how you look at it. It goes zero to sixty in under six seconds, regardless of who is testing it. Trap speeds in the quarter are generally right around 100 mph. That is not phenonmenal these days, but not too bad considering the current competition (Z4, Boxster, 350Z Roadster) Yes, you do have to rev the crap out of it and abuse the clutch to get a good launch. I refuse to do that with my car. It is not meant to be a stop-light or drag racer. I have owned torquey cars in the past: third-gens with built 350's and 383's, an LT1, and two LS1's and I do not feel that my S2000 is underpowered. Many S2000 owners buy new rear gears, which helps out on the low end. The stock ratio is 4.10, and 4.57 or 4.70 are popular. Centrifugal blowers are also popular, and Vortech makes a nice one that is perfectly mated to the powerband. In case people weren't already aware of this, the redline is 9k RPM on the 2.0 liter cars. Not to be a jerk or anything, but an S2000, even with a poor launch, would eat a 3.8 Mustang alive in the straights. Forget about the twisties, I won't even go there.

 

Like I said, I don't think "piston slap" is still with us and I also don't think it was limited to the aluminum block V8s.


After having owned a vehicle with Nissan's VK-series V8, I can honestly say that GM's pushrod V8 can't compete in terms of refinement or even torque delivery. However, it would be interesting to compare the dimensions of the aluminum block of a Nissan VK56 V8 with any Chevrolet LS-engine.

When the '97 C5 Corvette premiered, the LS1 was stunning...in 2001 the LS6 was amazing....for 2005 the LS2 didn't seem like much of an advance....and now the 7.0 liter LS7 looks like it should have only become a crate engine.


Actually, Chrysler's cast iron HEMI borrows quite a bit of combustion chamber design from Mercedes 3-valve/2-spark per cylinder engines. The very long pushrods in the Hemi allow the same sort of valve placements the overhead cam engine Mercedes engines.


Are you some sort of automotive journalist?

 

Dude, I think you need to go outside and get some fresh air. Seriously.

 

I think red is just a tad bent out of shape because he knows that EVERY Pontiac Solstice will sell and there won't be one for him.

 

Yeah, I left some details out about my experience

Like I said, the 3.8 was pretty spiffy for me. I was leaving Fresno State going down Shaw, a major street and one with many traffic cops. So I'm stupid and decide to not let this silver RSX get in front of me (thought he was going to change lanes. He had 3 passengers, I had none. He thought I wanted to race (or wanted to race me). From the light, I would snuff him to the point where around 45 I'd just let off the gas and he'd catch up. I'd see him gun it from a roll and we would be even for quite a distance. We did this a few times and the last time he actually gained on me while our mph's were in the 50s (maybe 60's). We both braked for a red light and I was glad he turned right

The s2000 was some asian chick on the bay bridge who gunned it the same time I did but would probably have killed me if:
1. she had went to higher rpm's
2. I had tried to race her again

I learned my lesson...stick with older, uglier imports

I expect big things from the charged Solstice and I like the styling of this car also. Who knows right now but a year or two later I'll be in the market and well see. I lost my "domestic only" faith.

 

Why would I want a 4-banger roadster that my big SUV can outrun?

 

Some people like to be able to turn.

 

Uh, my money's on the Solstice.

 

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I was just reading the Pontiac site on the Solstice.

50/50 distribution; 9gs of of roadholding stick; 177 horses & 166 lbs/ft of torque, $20,000 price tag. It's also coming out this summer instead of this fall. It sounds better everytime I hear about it.

Anyone know if the warranty remains with the dealer installed blower?


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