Mitsubishi is coming out with MIVEC on their 4g63 next year. I would love to see GM do the same.

 

They must have updated it b/c now it just says "*Starting price does not include AC".

Chris

 

They must have fixed it last night...because it was still there yesterday afternoon.

They lurk among us

 

Miatas aren't exactly as popular as they used to be. There are still plenty of those funny little Mazdaspeed Miatas still sitting around.


Anything could happen with the weak dollar, but there is a definite intention to compete with the Solstice's money-loosing $20K MSRP.


You must be quoting the specs for the 2.0 liter (actually 2.2 liter) inline-6 model that isn't sold in the U.S.A. Maybe Canada gets the smaller European base engine, but America doesn't.

The base engine in the U.S. Z4 is going to be a 215hp 2.5 liter inline-6.





Actually, GM's 5-speed automatic have very low torque capacities. This is precisely why normally aspirated Northstar is light on torque and why first year C6 Corvettes get prehistoric 4-speed slushboxes.



The odd thing about Nissan is that the 350Z's 6-speed manual is making its way to the Frontier (and Xterra), the not the other way around.

 

Check the 350Z boards....those things eat 6 speeds every 5k miles or less....

 

I would suspect that American drivers are having more manual transmission worries than Europeans. The sad fact is that most Americans grow up driving automatics, spend most of their adult lives driving automatics, and then get sucked into buying a manual-transmissioned sports car out of misplaced enthusiasm. With the 350Z, the situation is made worse by the poor availability of automatics in actual dealer inventory and the fact that Japanese manual transmissions aren't as tolerant of abuse as German gearboxes.

Any moron can destroy the clutch in a highpowered 350Z or a Maxima in under 35,000 miles. However, it normally takes well over 100,000 miles for the same sort of moron to ruin the clutch in a VW Jetta. When it comes to manual transmissions, the title of Greenday's latest album applies: "American Idiot."

 

This really explains a lot about your **** poor attitude....again, read the 350Z boards...it's a BAD TRANSMISSION NOT the driver..some of these guys aren't hardly getting home from a replacement before it breaks again.

BTW, if we Yankees are all so dumb, then WHY is it just the Nissan tinfoil tranny's that are breaking like this?

You have ZERO credibility due to your unhidden biases.....must be hell being so envious of America......

 

350z six speed etc

so is it just the clutch or the gear box? If it's the clutch who cares, you can spend $500 on a kevlar clutch and ruin in a few days if you don't break it in. You think the average 350z buyer breaks in the clutch/bed the brakes/change the oil often/varry revs/general rules that break in apply.

 

wow.. I just took a look at "my350z" and it sounds even worse over there then your avg Camaro board..... and thats saying alot!

The way I read it, it literally sounds like they are killing syncro's left and right.. or bending forks...

I wonder if the clutch isn't disengaging 100%, which may explain why alot of people are complaining about grinds, killing syncros and bent forks.. and revised clutch pedal assembly...

 

OMFG I have just read it all! Redzed's DUMBEST all time post!! Look Nissan hugger, I did not know how to drive a stick AT ALL when I bought my M6 SS last March. I put 10,000 miles on that bad boy from March-December and I drove it HARD once I gained some confidence. There was never a SINGLE issue with the clutch or gearbox itself. Are you an ostrich? Get your head out of the sand.

If Nissan is having trouble with their 6 speeds it's probably because it's a FAULTY PIECE. DUHHHHHH! There are hundreds of thousands of Camaros, Firebirds, Mustangs, etc. etc. that hold up just fine to whatever is thrown at them, including people who are just learning. Seriously did you read this drivel before you posted? Were you laughing or are you really serious????

 

I'll repeat what I said before:

The sad fact is that most Americans grow up driving automatics, spend most of their adult lives driving automatics, and then get sucked into buying a manual-transmissioned sports car out of misplaced enthusiasm.

If you put the vast majority of Americans behind the wheel of a manual transmissioned car, they will be utterly perplexed at their first uphill stop sign. We live in a slushbox oriented society and when a 40-something gets his/her first manual transmissioned car (which ironically comes from a country that is equally in love with the automatic transmission - Japan) don't expect the clutch to last for 100,000 miles.

My message to all of the 6-speed whiners is simple. Don't be an American Idiot. Just admit to the salesman and yourself that you can't drive a stick and walk right past that 350Z Track to the 350Z Touring with an automatic.

 

So what about the dozens of other manual transmissioned vehicles available in this country that don't necessarily have problems with premature breakage? Do the "American Idiot" drivers only buy 350Zs, while the rest of the manual drivers who are skilled manual tranny experts buy other cars?

Your point that many Americans are not good at manual transmissions is true. How that bears on the 350Z having problems (if it is) in greater proportion than other manual-equipped cars is a little hazy...

 

The best part of all this is if it were a GM car that was losing manual trannies at 5k, redzed would be bashing GM as fast and hard as he could.



So incredibly lame.

This is the worst stance I think I've ever seen taken here.

 

Here is a American who is driving a "stick" that is an american made car.

http://madawg.rh.rit.edu/idiot.wmv

Takes quite along time to overheat it too. Oh wait,Maybe its his first time driving a stick and does'nt know how?

 

1. Good for you.

2. You're talking about 10,000 miles?

3. When I ordered my Z28, I already knew how to drive a manual but I went for an automatic because (1) it was the same price and (2) you didn't lose any performance in a LS-1 when you went auto.

4. I didn't learn to drive a manual using any of my cars.


No clutch or gearbox is indestructible. These days, automatic transmissions generally enjoy longer trouble free lives than manuals - at least in the United States.