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So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spe

I voted for the $28K - $32K range knowing full well that is wishful thinking. I really don't see any way GM will offer an LS2 for less than $30,000 that isn't a stripper model. If you want leather and T-tops, you'll probably be in the mid-high 30's. I think all you have to do is look at the current GTO pricing to see about where a V8 Camaro will come in. GTO's are already ~$34K in 2005 dollars. Thinking that Chevy is the "bargain" brand, I would hope a Camaro would be cheaper, but it's not going to be $10K cheaper. (I'm only talking LS2 here).

By 2007, GTO's will most likely be in the ~$38K-$40K range, with a Camaro being only a few grand off. And like any good car buyer, I won't be buying a first year run either. That means all you '07 buyers need to break yours in (read: beat on) really well and find all the problems so I can have a rock-solid '08.

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

I would pay in the high 20s to low 30s for a well optioned SS. But I think the Z28 should be much cheaper more in the mid 20s and base models high teens to low 20s. I think they need to undercut the mustang in price for Z28 and base models. I will finally have a good job hopefully by 2007 so I will pay pretty high for a Camaro.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

A mainline V8 model (SS or such,) completely loaded, with leather, Ttops, 6disc, etc etc, shouldnt be more than $34k-$35k sticker. You should just be able to tickle $40k with a loaded convertible SS. However, a limited edition performance model, maybe a C5 ZO6 style car, (which is to say, not as extreme as the C6 ZO6, but with some lightening, suspension mods, maybe some more power) might be able to violate that a bit, but not much. Of course, Id still bitch because I want mine with a vinyl interior, rubber floormats, and a radio delete plate... However, without options, the mainline V8, which I assume would be LS2, shouldnt be more than $27k or $28k with a cloth interior and base stereo, etc etc.

I have said in the past, and maintain, that I want options damnit. Not options packages. Options. And the ability to uncheck a whole bunch of them while certain others remain checked.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spe

I think GM could, if it wanted too.. The LS2 replaces the LS1 right? It'll be shared in the C6, GTO, and probably the CTSv later...

Did the price of a f-bod jump up significantly between 97-98 with the switch over the the LS1? and back then only the C5 was using the LS1..

If Ford can offer a Mustang GT for $25k, then I don't see why gm can make a Z28 with an LS2 for $28-$32K (not adjusting for inflation)



Originally Posted by RoMaD
I voted for the $28K - $32K range knowing full well that is wishful thinking. I really don't see any way GM will offer an LS2 for less than $30,000 that isn't a stripper model. If you want leather and T-tops, you'll probably be in the mid-high 30's. I think all you have to do is look at the current GTO pricing to see about where a V8 Camaro will come in. GTO's are already ~$34K in 2005 dollars. Thinking that Chevy is the "bargain" brand, I would hope a Camaro would be cheaper, but it's not going to be $10K cheaper. (I'm only talking LS2 here).

By 2007, GTO's will most likely be in the ~$38K-$40K range, with a Camaro being only a few grand off. And like any good car buyer, I won't be buying a first year run either. That means all you '07 buyers need to break yours in (read: beat on) really well and find all the problems so I can have a rock-solid '08.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

First they gotta make me want one at all. It'll be up against some compelling competition including used C5s.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

I think 25K-35K would be an acceptable price range.

25K for a base Z28/GTO with the lower HP V8 with around 340-350HP, low 13 second quarter miles, similar performence to the old LS1 cars.

30K for a base SS/GTO with the high HP LS2 V8. 400 HP, high to mid 12 second quarter mile. Also, don't force buyers to pay for options they don't want. Make Sunroofs, leather, bigger wheels, stiffer suspension, fancy stereo/nav all options on the upper model.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

Im thinking something around 22k for a V6 model. Around 27k for the SS with whatever engine they decide to put in that. Then start the Z28 with the LS2 out at 28k. Top end convertible models of the SS with the LS2 should top at at about 36k. And yeah, ability to actually choose options, not option packages would be ideal. If I am going to buy one of these cars when im 23 im gonna need to buy the car I want, not the car I kinda want cuz I couldnt get some options or couldnt get rid of others.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

Originally Posted by 3rdGenNut
26k for LS2, T56 and 4.11 gears. That should put an end to the ricer fad.
Put Z28 badges on it and I'd be there.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

blah.... Just use the LS2 for all V8 Camaro's.. Unless you want GM to spend more money in certifying two V8's for the Camaro, and adding more cost onto both varients.. and giving them a nice excuse to put a higher premium cost on the LS2...

besides, 300-350 hp isn't THAT crazy anymore.. I mean, its still a large number, but we have V6's that are rated at 300, and turbo 4's at 300 now..

Plus, it would be nice to 1up the Mustang.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

I think low 30s for a well optioned V8. Think about it, the GTO is what 33-34k with an LS2, T56, IRS and a very nice interior. If you start pricing it well above the GT as well we will end up with nearly the exact same feature and power vs cost lineup we had with the 4th gen. We all know how that ended.

With the cost of the GT, 300C and the current GTO, asking mid to upper 30s is suicide, the car will be around 3 years if it is, or we end up playing the massive rebate game again.
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

It's been said over and over, but for volume, it's going to need to compete with the Mustang's price point. That will be the logical comparison for your average consumer.

The GTO appears to be poised to compete with a slightly different category of car, more like a G35 or BMW 3 series. After taking a few test drives, I think it can.

The Camaro seems to cater to a crowd that appreciates less rattles and a nice looking design, but doesn't need the absolute best technology or the luxury oriented interior. Along this line, I bet the GTO retains the IRS, and the Camaro sticks with the solid rear axle. The GTO will also probably go with a higher end interior and gadgets as well. Those will be the price point differences, setting up the Camaro to compete just under the GTO in the Mustang range. I would imagine special edition Camaros, like an SS perhaps, would get the benefit of some of the GTO's more standard goodies.

I like the new Mustang, it's just funny how it is basically a 4th Gen F-body. As has been said, it did outsell the Camaro in its prior form, so it's obvious that the average consumer didn't appreciate the added performance level of the F-body, even at the same price.

The $20k - $28k sales price range (V6 & V8) is probably still most appropriate for a 5th Gen Camaro, with special edition models creeping over the $30k mark. An MSRP on a run of the mill V8 Camaro of over $30K would probably scare off most window shoppers. The Mustangs are getting close to the $30K MSRP, but I think once the newness wears off, they will have a difficult time actually selling them at that price. New GTs will drop back to a $25K transaction price.
Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

$0. I have no use for another V6 FWD Coupe.
Old Jan 15, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Re: So if they brought back the Camaro/Trans-Am, how much would you be willing to spend?

30k tops for a fully loaded z28 coupe.
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