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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam4356
go with the failed protectionist mentality and the country tanks.


Tariffs are a failed and ignorant method of control. They don't work as designed and they certainly don't work in the USA.
Then how as the how has the domestic truck market been so successful over decades in the US with the 25% duty, known as the chicken tax, in effect? Believe this might be a good example that it does and it can work.

Least for this segment it has forced many foreign manufacturers to invest capital into US facilities and jobs. Not all trucks are produced here, but the vast majority with anything resembling real volume are produced here. Manufacturers domestic and foreign alike have profited from trucks in the US. How is this bad again?
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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And our president will be riding in a Mercedes limo instead of a Caddy

hes still got the Caddy..

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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Japan and Korea don't quiet have our economy

Is theirs getting better or worse than ours??
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 03:51 AM
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That's because they sold their goods for a loss until they broke the U.S. Electronics companies. Now, aside from Phillips, they are the only players in the game. This practice is now illegal because of this very situation.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they were doing the same with their auto industry! Not to mention they've gotten help from their government!
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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does GM make cars that japan wants?
so no one has really answered this question

what cars does GM produce that would just absolutely take off in japan provided their tax on imports was suddenly done away with?
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by anasazi
so no one has really answered this question

what cars does GM produce that would just absolutely take off in japan provided their tax on imports was suddenly done away with?
I am guessing since thereis nothing to guage it..

but I would think the halo/performance cars would be the ones they would go for at first..Camaro,Mustang, Challenger, Charger, Corvette.

Would Japan buy a Cobalt or a Focus or a HHR?

Or a Malibu? Or Fusion?

The other problem is..right hand drive..not to much to pick from for us to import..So it would have to be nitch cars at first..or Holdens and Ford Australias efforts??
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by anasazi
so no one has really answered this question

what cars does GM produce that would just absolutely take off in japan provided their tax on imports was suddenly done away with?
I don't have any current info, but one odd fact does pop up in my mind...

The Chevy Astro van was extremely popular in Japan. As far as LHD, high-priced-due-to-taxes, cars go in a RHD, low-priced market.

The Japanese are every bit as funky and strange as we think they are. They will go for anything that looks different. I'd bet the HHR would be a hit. As well as other select models from the different GM brands.
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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I totally agree with PacerX.

Now, how many elected officials that vote for the tariffs will the American consumer re-elect next time around?
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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I totally agree with PacerX.

Now, how many elected officials that vote for the tariffs will the American consumer re-elect next time around?
I bet all of them will get re-elected from michigan, ohio, south carolina, mississippi, alabama, and whatever other states have multiple car factories in them.

Mainly michigan and ohio though.
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Is theirs getting better or worse than ours??
Japan is worse. Since 02 it has significantly lagged the USA in GDP average (1.62% vs 2.47%). Not to mention Japans glorious 90's with almost no movement.

Korea is better, in terms of GDP, but they again are not a comparable equal to our economy.


The USA's strength did not come from manufacturing. It began with that and grew due to consistant and sustainable growth. Thats the key, our ability to maintain economic growth. Growth is handicaped with government intervention in the market place, ie tariffs. They just do not work in the real world.
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