http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...TO01/901080428


"U.S. and other foreign automakers have long struggled to gain a foothold in Japan's car market and imported vehicles make up only 7 percent of annual sales of new vehicles in Japan."

Yeah.

No ****, huh?



Ford and Chrysler combined sold something like 6,000 cars in Japan last year.

Let's say GM sold another 6,000.


Well then, methinks a tariff on every imported unit over 12,000 imported units per year sold in the US should be considered. After all, fair is fair...

 

why would you want to tax chevy silverados, avalanche, suburbans, Equinox, pontiac G8, or even the impala? or any of the many other vehicles not made in USA by GM and ford?

 

Golly... I don't know...

MAYBE TO SAVE THE AMERICAN MANUFACTURING BASE IN THE FACE OF OBVIOUSLY PREDATORY TRADE PRACTICES BY OUR "PARTNERS"????

We sell something like 6,000 cars in Japan between Ford and Chrysler. SIX THOUSAND. Honda sells how many here that are built in Japan???



Mexico and Canada and Austrailia are reasonable trading partners. Japan and Korea ARE NOT.
Besides, I'd only want to tax someone like that if there's a significant trade imbalance.


Like... oh... say...

1,000 to 1?


Maybe we could have a reasonable cutoff on that. Maybe something like... 250:1

Oh... let me guess... 250:1 to interferes with your notions of a free market? Go look up "Value Added Tax" implementations in Korea, Germany and Japan sometime and get back to me.



At some point, we are either going to learn to use reasonable means to protect ourselves somewhat...

Or YOU are going to have to learn to say:

"Would you like fires with that?"

...while keeping your paper hat on straight.

 

What % is Japans tariff? I see no reason not to match it.

None of those are made in Japan

 

Yup.

Tax em all.

Anything coming in from an outside country, regardless of manufacturer based on import/export numbers from the country of origin.


Give a reason to bring the jobs back here for a change.

 

I'd even be happy with the less radical choices:

1) Tariff to match the effect of Value Added Taxes and raw material subsidies.

2) Set an import ratio quota. 250:1 was chosen above just because it is so outlandishly stupid as to defy even the ATTEMPT to bring a reasonable argument against it... but would still hit the Japanese and Koreans... which oughta tell ya something...

 

not that i agree with him you totally missed his point. his point is you'd have to tariff EVERYTHING not built in the U.S.A which includes all those he mentioned.

 

No.

You do not.

His point breaks down due to the fact that Aus is NOT a predatory trading partner, and neither is Canada. Mexico you could have some debate on... but not a whole lot... Mexico tends to be relatively fair, although they do artificially keep their labor costs down... and MUCH more fair than Japan, Korea or Germany.

 

This thread isn't about vehicles made in Mexico and Canada, it is about Japan.

 

A semi-related rant:

A few years ago, I was looking to buy a decent digital camera... I wanted to find one made in the USA. I couldn't. Regardless fo price.

Most electronics are this way. I may look for a TV soon... so far, I'm finding similar futility in finding one made in the USA.

Those that say it's not a problem are equivilant to the violinists playing as the Titanic sunk, IMO.

 

i got that. like i said i didn't agree with him just his point was to tariff everything.

 

i've been saying that for years.

 

I never said to tariff everything.

 

That's because they sold their goods for a loss until they broke the U.S. Electronics companies. Now, aside from Phillips, they are the only players in the game. This practice is now illegal because of this very situation.

 

never said YOU did.