The BOSS 290 is consider to be crap because of its limited power band and adversion to revs. 4000-6000rpm is its power band and it lacks torque at lower revs (compared to holdens engine). It is also huge as guionM can confirm.

The BOSS 290 is NOT aluminium. It has an iron block and is very heavy which throws out the cars handling compared to the lighter I6. The I6 Turbo has a better torque spread/power band, higher reving engine. The only thing it does better than the Holden engine is sound. Thats it.

 

You won't get any debate out of me on the external size of the DOHC 5.4.

When I popped the hood of the XR8 Falcon, my reaction was "Holy sh*t!! What heavy lift crane and how much lube did they use to get that thing in there!!!!". The engine easily looked bigger than a 60s Hemi!

No. I am NOT exaggerating!

Being an iron block keeps cost down

The actual iron block portion by itself really isn't all that massive. But when you throw on tall wide heads on a 90 degree "V" that not only house the combustion chamber and valve assembly, but then throw not one but 2 sets of high lift cams and dual valvetrain assemblies on top and then cover it all with valve covers big enough to cover this monstrosity, the whole package looks like it should be in a heavy truck.



I'd like to see both Oz engines (the 5.4 Dohc & the turbo I-6) here. Although I think the V8 would be an easy fit in a Crown Vic, I'm not sure where you could put the blown 6. I suppose it can physically fit in the new Mustang, but from a strictly marketing standpoint, I don't think it'd be a image fit.

I'd can easily see both the Dual cam 5.4 and the turbo 6 in a Lincoln, though.

 

With the long stroke, the aversion to revs doesn't surprise me. In fact, it's exactly what I'd expect. The engine being huge is another reason not to like it.

I assume that the new U.S. Boss (nee Hurricane) engine will somehow be better. But if not, then I'd like to see a DOHC VVT DI 4.6 or 5.0 engine. A long stroke V8 is a truck engine, and you just can't hide that, so don't bother. With DI, DOHC, and VVT, the 4.6 ought to have plenty of power and torque for a Lincoln. I'm guessing 350hp/350ft.lb. is easily feasible.

The I6 would be great in the U.S. But they'd have to bring the emissions down to LEV2 levels. Would it fit in the Mustang? It might be too long.

 

Also isn't it a really old engine, although updated along the way, think Buick 3.8 to 3800 SC?

 

You know more about the inner workings of F than most of us... how do you think Derrick Kuzak's elevation to Lutz-like status will affect Mascarenas's efforts to completely screw up Ford's large-car line? Do you think it's likely to make things worse (from our hot-RWD-car-loving perspective) or better?

 

To a large degree it's a godsend, but it's not the only thing that's promising.

1st, Ford's new CEO, Alan Mulally, is an engineer by training. Not an accountant, marketer, or salesperson. Being from outside the industry, I was initially opposed to him. But knowing what I know now, I think it's a good thing. As an engineer from outside the auto industry, he's going to ask alot of questions, have a logical mind, and have a tendancy of cutting the unnecessary. He's also shown he has the ***** to force out and cut people that are close friends of Bill.

2nd, Bill Ford seems to be realizing that just because people have been with the company forever, and they are friends, doesn't necessarily mean they are best for the company's future. He's pulled himself completely from day to day operations, and has given Mullally "Carde Blanche" to do whatever he feels necessary to save the company. Bill's even made the trip to Ford of Australia. Every since Nasser was forced out, Ford of Australia has been completely ignored (Nasser once ran Ford of Australia, and was aiming to incorperate them with the rest of Ford when he was CEO).

Now with Ford creating this Lutz-like position, It means that Ford is going to standardized platforms like Toyota and soon to be GM. I don't see Ford Australia having a new RWD sedan chassis that won't be used elsewhere with a Car-Czar and Mullally running the show. I'm sure it will show up somewhere, either Lincoln or Mercury.


At the same time, Ford has a history of rapidly killing poor selling cars, so if the redesigned Five Hundred doesn't pick up sales, I wouldn't expect it to be around by 2011. When you look at the timing, and the speed Ford can react when they have their act together, then you start speculating on the prospect of the Crown Vic and Five Hundred being replaced by a single RWD sedan.


I'm starting to get a little optimistic with Ford, only because of some things said by a person (not me) who went to Ford's Detroit preview.

 

I would like to see the 500 stay on, called Taurus as it should have been in the first place, with Lincoln and Mercury getting a new large RWD car.

I dont see why their couldn't be a stripped package for the merc to get police sales.

 

So Detroit will be interesting for both GM and Ford. [Burns]Excellent[/Burns]

 

Might also be very interesting for Chrysler.

 

According to this article on drive.com.au this concept will be based on the Mustang not Falcon.

 

Lincoln won't be the only RWD "concept" from Ford at NAIAS. Ford will also have a RWD "concept" sedan. Both based on the same Mustang based chassis.

The models were shown also to some former Ford employees at a gathering that put on display some of the vehicles Ford is planning to put into production in the near future. I suspect this was also shown to the press at the Detroit preview that has some expressing optimism in Ford's near future.

I'm speculating these cars are "concepts" the way the Lincoln MKS sedan that's headed for production was a "concept".