The IROC, Z28, RS, and whatever were distinguishable even from far away but 4th Z28's and SS's aren't, all 4ths look nearly the same, that's what counts here and that's what I never want to see again. 1 thing I have noticed is that in every other Gen when people see a model from far away they say, "there's a Z28" or "there's an RS," but for 4ths it's just "theres a Camaro." And then when you are up close you still have to look for an emblem.

For the 5th Gen there needs to be different hoods, rims, tire sizes, stripes, taillights, maybe even bumpers and spoilers. And just because a model is lower than another doesn't mean it has to look like complete ****, just let it be different/distinctive in it's own even though the other models might be more aggressive or flashy.

 

Some good examples... but, in 85 for example, base and Berlinetta shared fascias, as did Z28 and IROC-Z, so it wasn't liek they were so totally different. A lot of the looks differences where wheels and stcikers...

I guess what I'm getting at is that I dont see anyway there can be four different looks so dramatic that specific body panels will be made for each.

 

If you can tell an 3rd Gen IROC-Z apart from a 3rd Gen Z28 , then you certainly can tell a 4th Gen SS apart from a 4th Gen Z28 at the same distance. Don't try to say otherwise, because that is just .

Maybe not so much the base V6 and the Z28 in the 4th Gen, but then I could say the same thing for a 91 RS and a 91 Z28. Different spoiler, different grille (which you couldnt even tell if a front plate was on anyway) and painted headlamp pockets (which if the car was black, you couldnt tell either) and hood bumps is about all the difference, as far as different looks go for 91 and 92. I can say very similar things for 88 through 90 too.

 

stock for stock a thirdgen z28 and iroc are easy to tell apart....the 15" z28 wheels, and iroc logos are the first things I look for...Its a bit harder to tell now since hardly anything is show room stock anymore....You are right that they did share some of the same body parts though there is no denying it, but most of them truely had there own personality.

Even if they brought back the camaro as a V8 RWD car that could only be had in one trim I would not complain....

 

umm there were big differences exteriorwise between the '91RS and the '91Z28.You had mentioned some of the differences but I will elaborate some more differences.
RS-body colored headlamp pockets,old 15" Z28 wheels(16" new Z28 wheels were optional),plain hood,3peice spoiler and louvered grill.

Z28-black headlight pockets,red bowtie on black grill w/foglight openings for the foglights,hood blisters,highrise spoiler in place of traditional 3piece spoiler,tpi engine (5.7 was on 350)on back rear bumper for 350 models,and 16" wheels.

 

No DXed, I disagree with you also, again. They are definetly not as easy to tell apart, no way, no how. Telling apart ANY Third Gen Z28 from an IROC or RS or Sport Coupe (or any way you combine it) is more than easy. There's almost always gotta be 1 person who trys to argue everything you say and give you a difficult time in each post, even if they agree or not.

 

I agree with all the differences.... but I think I mentioned all of them.

The few I skipped over were the wheels, because the 16" wheels could be ordered on a V8 RS.... the fog lamps were optional on the Z28, though most did come with them... the grille, well, I mentioned the license plate thing that could cover the bow tie in many states... and the 350 badge wouln't be present on a non-350 Z28...

But, ya, I agree... I can tell a 91 Z28 from a 91 RS... but sometimes certain 3rd Gen fanatics over-exagerate some things...

 

It is totally ridiculous to say that it is "easier to tell apart a 3rd Gen Z28 from a 3rd Gen RS than it is to tell a 4th Gen SS apart from a 4th Gen Z28"



Seriously... you need to lose the 3rd Gen blinders... I can appreciate the fact that they are your personal favorite, but geeeeeeez-o-man, some of this stuff is so silly.

 

I did mention that the 5.7 badge were on 350tpi models. and foglights were standard on all Z28s except for the 1LE Z28s.Also 350s didn't come with T-tops,another distinguishing trait of the 350tpi models.

 

I did say that you had mentioned some of what I posted about the rs z28 diferences. I agree with the 4thgen SS/Z28 thing but I ask you respectivly that you need to open your eyes.I and just about everyone else can easily tell the differences between the RS,Z28 and the IROCs,but I won't go into it anymore because this thread was about the RS.

 

Thank you 91Z.

I mean ****, Z28's didn't even have body colored GFX until 91-92, you can't miss them!! IROC's all got the GFX painted the body color and SC's had none and the lower models had different taillights and no black headlight pockets and many more differences, wheels, stripes, you name it, interior, whatever. Even trying to imply that any 4th Gen is as easy to tell apart than a Third is not only dumb, it's complete nonsense because every single model was clearly distinguishable from the other.

 

Even if the right combination of things came together to make the Z28 and RS sort of different in 1991... can you honestly say "it's easier to tell apart then a 01 Z28 and 01 SS from 40 feet away?"

That is what IZ28 is trying to push here, and it's just false.

Let's compare:

From the front:

The 4th Gen would have different grille and hood scoop.
The 3rd Gen would have a different grille, hood bumps, and head lamp blackouts.

From the side:

The 4th Gen would have unique SS wheels, SS emblems, SS spoiler.
The 3rd Gen would have Z28 wheels that could be on an RS, Z28 emblems, and a Z28 spoiler.

From the rear:

The 4th Gen would have the SS spoiler, and the SS emblem.
The 3rd Gen would have the Z28 spoler, and the Z28 emblem.

Now... IZ28, the only differences here are from the front, the 3rd Gen would have the blacked out headlamp pocket that you might be able to tell, but if the car was black, or a dark color, you'd have a hard time noticing... and from the side, the 4th Gen has a distinct advantage of having unique wheels that could NOT be had on a 4th Gen Z28.


Now.... Tell me how the 3rd Gen is "easier to tell apart" again?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

If you're talking about when these 2 cars are parked then well it's a toss up but if they're going down the street the answer would be the 91Z is easier.

 

Well... ya, obvioiusly... the motor makes a big difference! But appearance wise, there is little difference in what distinguishes these two sets in comparision...

 

Darth

Have you actually looked at 3rdgen Z28s,the 82-87s? They are so different from the lower models.The IROCs are even moreso.