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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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I'm not really so sure about how I feel about an "RS Appearance Option".

If the RS looks better....just make all Camaros look like that.

As far as making it a model....well, Chevy, tread carefully. For the 3rd gen, it became code word for the lowliest Camaro available.

For the 4th gen it became a code word for truly juvenile ground FX.

Sometimes I think it could be time for maybe a new name.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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That's why I think it is time to put some ***** back into that model and give it a smaller, respectable V8.

The problem with the RS in the 3rd gen is because it was available with the base engine and the upgrade was a gutless V8(although it wasn't that bad for the time). It got a bad rap because it could be had with the base engine and that is what I fear could happen if GM does the whole RS appearence package on any model. People will associate it with a lower model and that could drive people away or just make it obsolete. Why would someone want to have the appearence shared with a lower car? You could say, "well just don't buy it" but I don't think enough people would actually buy it to make a buisness case for it.........maybe they would, who knows. But think about this: take an SS with all the cosmetic upgrades that come standard and then ditch them in favor of the RS look.......................I don't see that happening.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 11:38 PM
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Sooooo....it's ok for the 3rd Gen to completely re-write Camaro history, eh?
I think you missed what I was saying. And I was referring some of my post to DXed or any1 else that might think the RS was always and appearance option. The above poster makes a good observation that I agree with. Why would a Z28 or SS owner want a car that has stuff from a lower or mid model?? That's why I said it should have been or should just be an Appearance Option. (insert name here, but not RS or any other model designation!!)
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by IZ28
I think you missed what I was saying. And I was referring some of my post to DXed or any1 else that might think the RS was always and appearance option. The above poster makes a good observation that I agree with. Why would a Z28 or SS owner want a car that has stuff from a lower or mid model?? That's why I said it should have been or should just be an Appearance Option. (insert name here, but not RS or any other model designation!!)
Actually, I see SNEAKY NEIL's point about "If you have a Z28 or SS why would you want a base car to be able to look like it" ... and, to be honest, he has swayed me a bit... BUT...

When has RS ever been more than an appearance package?

It hasn't to my knowledge, except (maybe) for the brief time from 89-92 where it was the base model, but basically it was the IROC-Z / Z28 ground effects and 15" wheels slapped onto a base car... and then the base car was deleted...
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Then it doesn't qualify as an appearance option 89-92. It was the base car and wasn't it the same or the mid model in the later 2nd Gen?! When it was either the base or mid car and its looks weren't available on any other model, it's kinda obvious that it wasn't an appearance option. In the 4th Gen it was just GFX, which actually made the cars look better while being just slightly overdone. The GFX should have been on the top models and not the RS. But still, the RS "look" was only available on that model, but it could maybe qualify in a way as an appearance option there, but definetly not in the Third Gen and I'm still waiting on an answer for the 2nd Gen.

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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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For later 2ndgens it was a mid-level model,there was the sport coupe,the RS(which was later replaced with the Berlinetta in '79) and then the Z28.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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Heck we might as well bing back the "Type-LT" then.

Realistically what do we really want to see regardless of what they're called?

a.) A base V6 Camaro coupe sans any styling package.

b.) A base V6 Camaro convertible sans any styling package.

c.) A base V8 Camaro couple sans any styling package.

d.) A base V8 Camaro convertible sans any styling package.

e.) A High Peformance V8 coupe. (Z/28?)

f.) A High Peformance V8 convertible. (Z/28?)

h.) A ground effects, & special trim upgrade for above. (RS?)

i.) A Higher Peformance (Level II) special trim upgrade for e & f above (SS?) (can also be combined with h.)

While that might please everyone, quite frankly that may just be too many models to choose from, and there may be no way that many choices ever gets approved if GM is trying to be cost effective.

Personally I can see losing c, d, f & i and instead offering a supercharged version of the base V6 for those that want a little more umph!

That would drop it down to three models with various options....

Base V6 coupe
Base V6 convertible
Z/28 (High Performance V8 coupe only).

And if for some reason GM only wants to give us one option like the new GTO... then without question, it should be a Z/28 V8 coupe.

I don't want to get too greedy... just bring the Camaro back!
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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I just want them to all have their own nice, unique, and distinctive styling, and no mixing of designations.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by 91Zman
For later 2ndgens it was a mid-level model,there was the sport coupe,the RS(which was later replaced with the Berlinetta in '79) and then the Z28.
So it wan't an appearance option there either kinda like the Thirds, except it was the base car for them.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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So it wan't an appearance option there either kinda like the Thirds, except it was the base car for them.
If your talking about the base V8 then yeah but the sport coupe( V6),was the base model.I'm pretty sure that the RS had the V6 and the 305.Oh and the Type LT was replaced by the berl and not the RS like I previously stated.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Then it doesn't qualify as an appearance option 89-92. It was the base car and wasn't it the same or the mid model in the later 2nd Gen?! When it was either the base or mid car and its looks weren't available on any other model, it's kinda obvious that it wasn't an appearance option. In the 4th Gen it was just GFX, which actually made the cars look better while being just slightly overdone. The GFX should have been on the top models and not the RS. But still, the RS "look" was only available on that model, but it could maybe qualify in a way as an appearance option there, but definetly not in the Third Gen and I'm still waiting on an answer for the 2nd Gen.


I'll just stop... I cant feel another one of those times coming on where you are going to make me wanna smack my head up against a brick wall...
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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It will be too confusing to people if I have to tell them I drive a Chevrolet Camaro RS-Z28/SS-1LE , keep names simple, no alphabet soup
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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It will be too confusing to people if I have to tell them I drive a Chevrolet Camaro RS-Z28/SS-1LE , keep names simple, no alphabet soup

The simpler the better.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28

That would drop it down to three models with various options....

Base V6 coupe
Base V6 convertible
Z/28 (High Performance V8 coupe only).

And if for some reason GM only wants to give us one option like the new GTO... then without question, it should be a Z/28 V8 coupe.

As far as I'm concerned, it's all about the base car and the Z/28.....everything else is just filler.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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I'll just stop... I cant feel another one of those times coming on where you are going to make me wanna smack my head up against a brick wall...
Whatever, but that is the fun part of our conversations.



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