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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:59 PM
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RS Designation

A lot of people seem to suggest the use of the "RS" Designation as a mid-model or a base V8 model.

I don't really care for this idea, since "RS" has always been an appearance package, and not really had anything to do with power upgrades.

What I'd like to see for an RS in a 5th Gen is an optional appearance package that can be added to the base car, the Z28 or the SS (or whatever models we end up with) much like it was back in the day.

You could then end up with RS/SS's and RS/Z28's and such...

Just my .02 on the subject anyway...

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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Works for me, as long as they don't make it a clunky looking ground effects package.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Re: RS Designation

Originally posted by Darth Xed
A lot of people seem to suggest the use of the "RS" Designation as a mid-model or a base V8 model.

I don't really care for this idea, since "RS" has always been an appearance package, and not really had anything to do with power upgrades.

What I'd like to see for an RS in a 5th Gen is an optional appearance package that can be added to the base car, the Z28 or the SS (or whatever models we end up with) much like it was back in the day.

You could then end up with RS/SS's and RS/Z28's and such...

Just my .02 on the subject anyway...

Thoughts?
Ditto!
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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I don't like the idea of an RS as just an appearence option. I think it sould be it's own model, more like the third gen deal. It could have a lower V8 and some cosmetic stuff too. I definatly do not want the base to be called RS!

Also, I never liked the way the 1st and 2nd gen had the whole RS/SS thing. I'd rather have each model with it's own distinctive styling.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
I don't like the idea of an RS as just an appearence option. I think it sould be it's own model, more like the third gen deal. It could have a lower V8 and some cosmetic stuff too. I definatly do not want the base to be called RS!

Also, I never liked the way the 1st and 2nd gen had the whole RS/SS thing. I'd rather have each model with it's own distinctive styling.
There it is right there. Dats da way it should be.

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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
I don't like the idea of an RS as just an appearence option. I think it sould be it's own model, more like the third gen deal. It could have a lower V8 and some cosmetic stuff too. I definatly do not want the base to be called RS!

Also, I never liked the way the 1st and 2nd gen had the whole RS/SS thing. I'd rather have each model with it's own distinctive styling.
Ya, the 3rd Gen was a little wishy-washy as far as sticking to the traditional RS definition of just an appearance package.

If you really get down to it, though, it did.

The 3rd Gen RS debuted in 1987 as an appearance package for the base car.

In 1988, this packge (ground effects and wheels basically) became standard on the base car (Called, simply, "Camaro") but then they brought the RS name back for 1989 and it became the base model thru 1992, but basically, it is what it was in 1987... an upgraded base car in appearance.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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RS or Rally Sport has always been an appearance package. If it is brought back, it should remain an appearance package.

The only performance packages should be Z/28 and SS.

I really could care less if you don't like the original RS/SS, RS-Z/28, and RS designations. I DO! As do many more people than those that don't.

What gets me are the types of people that now have or have only had 3rd gen Camaros that think that their opinions speak for the millions of other Camarophiles who have owned and loved the other generations.

Let's keep some things in historical perspective shall we?

Z/28 has always been a V8.

SS (Super Sport) has always had a 350 ci small block or 396 ci big block. (Not counting the dealer special cars like Yenko, Nickey, Baldwin, etc... and yes the LT1's and LS1's are close enough to be called 350's )

RS (Rally Sport) has always been an appearance package. (L6, V6 or V8).

And unless something changes in the near future and they start running Camaros again in the International Race Of Champions... the IROC-Z should remain DEAD.

Old Jul 29, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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I guess that IROC comment is supposed to get some people all rialed up or something...........Well, if you are refering to me as "only owning third gens" you should look at the sig! Don't worry, I am well schooled in F-bodies of generations past.

The whole RS/SS thing will never fly. Remember what happened in 96' when they brought back the RS as a appearence thing.............didn't last too long now did it. I think the 5th gen would do better if they had thier own distinctive styling with maybe some slight variations in the appearence within each model. An appearence package that is for a base model and for an SS and for a Z28 will not work. People bitched about the 4th gen Z28 looking like a base model so if you have this homogonized RS appearence package, then you will have the same problem.................base models, Z28's, and SS's looking the same if they have that package. If I buy an SS, I want my car to look unique and better than lthe esser models. Plus, if the RS has it's own model, then it will be more special and people can feel good about the car they have instead of, "well, I just have the body kit".

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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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The IROC-Z shoudn't be brought back unless they run the races is right and kinda obvious. And I don't think it should be brought back because they'll never make 1 as cool as the originals.

RS was never an appearance option in the Third Gen. There was no combining designations and it was a separate model from the Sport Coupe because they were never available together. In 87 and 88 it was tested in certain states only and in 89 the Sport Coupe, which in 88 looked like the RS, was just changed a little and called RS. I like the 1st Gens some, but I dislike the whole having an RS model and its looks also being able to be combined with Z28's and SS's. They should have been separate and there should have been just a headlight and taillight option, which is what it was.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by IZ28
I like the 1st Gens some, but I dislike the whole having an RS model and its looks also being able to be combined with Z28's and SS's. They should have been separate and there should have been just a headlight and taillight option, which is what it was.
Sooooo....it's ok for the 3rd Gen to completely re-write Camaro history, but death to any future generation that does, eh?
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Well, while we're rewriting history....How about this?

A mid model Camaro with a new designation!
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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I own a 3rdgen and I LIKE the RS SS/Z28 combos. I kinda think that GM messed up when they made the RS just an appearance package for the 4thgens.It should also have had a small V8 like all the other gens.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Sooooo....it's ok for the 3rd Gen to completely re-write Camaro history, but death to any future generation that does, eh?
Umm the RS became its' own model in '75. It was when the 4thgen came out that rewrote the RS as just an appearance oriented V6 model.
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by SNEAKY NEIL
If I buy an SS, I want my car to look unique and better than lthe esser models. Plus, if the RS has it's own model, then it will be more special and people can feel good about the car they have instead of, "well, I just have the body kit".
so dont get the RS package with your SS then. big deal. its just another option being thrown out to the general pubic, and im sure some of the people buying (young adults) wouldnt mind having that "sporty" looking ground effects and wheels package.
and i dont think the RS lasted in 4th gen because it was only available on v6 models, whereas ifthey brought it back it should be able to be included on all models. and i actually own a 92 RS and i think its a good idea to bring back the RS/SS and RS/Z28 thing.
also, keep irocs out, they could never compare to true irocs.

jus my .02
Old Jul 29, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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I say either make RS its own model or make it a V6 body kit like on the 4th gens.



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