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Quote from Bob Lutz In Autoweek

Old Jan 17, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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I think Bob Lutz drives a mustang.
I think you're right!
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Has anyone noticed that Lutz gets asked about the Camaro often?

Do you think that he gets the hint that alot of people are very interested in it?

I'd bet NO ONE has ever asked him about the new Tahoe.
HAHA, yeah no kidding. I couldn't imagine any reporter asking him "OK, now for the big question that everybody wants asked, how about that new MALIBU!?"
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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You guys are ignoring the facts and relying on hope. The camaro isn't coming back. I suggest you find another car to like or shift your focus from the future to the used f-bodies.

Just my opinion of course... but everyone is entitled to my opinion
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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You guys are ignoring the facts and relying on hope.
The only "facts" we know is that the Camaro isn't going to be built for 2003. Now obviously it will be longer than that without one but if you want to boil it down to facts that's about the only one we know for certain.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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I drive a ford so I know I am going to get flamed for this.

First off, I would love to see a new f-bod out soon.

Second is, I do not like to be lied too. I do not care how many times he gets asked that question, he should just say I can't discuss that. Not lie straight forward and say after a 30 yr nap or whatever lutz said.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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I do not like to be lied too. I do not care how many times he gets asked that question, he should just say I can't discuss that. Not lie straight forward and say after a 30 yr nap or whatever lutz said.
I agree. I don't think it may be far from the truth if he is saying something like that. It's not like a CEO of a large corporation to out and out lie to the public just to cover up a concept vehicle. I think they are more likely to blurr and distort the facts or like you said - just have no comment on it at all.

To say something like that though...........
I think it's the truth.
Don't wait for the new Camaro, guys - you heard it straight from the horse's mouth this time - there will be no new Camaro.
Get over it, and buy a Corvette or GTO.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Can somebody wake me after my "30 year nap". I'll be ready to buy a GM product by then.

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Old Jan 17, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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As someone else mentioned, it is kind of a slap in the face for him to say things like that....
"After a 30 yr nap"......Ha Ha That's really funny.
It truly bothers me that a person in his position would downplay the importance of the Camaro and Firebird.These cars meant so much to so many and have a cult like following...
So yeah, after a 30 yr nap....Ha Friggin Ha


HAAA haa haha at GMS MARKET SHARE hah ahha

A$$ HOLE

why are you guys saying its not true it came right out of the BOSS at GM .He wants to crack jokes I'll laugh at gms market share and our loyalties
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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I hate SUV's, FWD, and don't have $35,000...

Originally posted by Z284ever
Can somebody wake me after my "30 year nap". I'll be ready to buy a GM product by then.

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Anyone want to buy a whole bunch of GM card points?
Hey, I got about $2,000 worth...think we can auction them off on Ebay? I saw one of their commercials the other day and I thought about it....What am I charging towards??
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Re: I hate SUV's, FWD, and don't have $35,000...

Originally posted by WERM
Hey, I got about $2,000 worth...think we can auction them off on Ebay? I saw one of their commercials the other day and I thought about it....What am I charging towards??
I've probably got about $1,700 worth.

I'd take 50cents on the dollar for them right now.
Old Jan 17, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by WishIHadAZ
You guys are ignoring the facts and relying on hope. The camaro isn't coming back. I suggest you find another car to like or shift your focus from the future to the used f-bodies.

Just my opinion of course... but everyone is entitled to my opinion
Now I think you need to examine your statement and take your own words... if you read the first quote Lutz says that it WILL come back... in about 30 years ... no seriously I think that it is going to come back, unless they are hiding some sweet *** muscle car to fill that gap within that price range to replace the camaro.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by IZ28
If there's 1 thing I can say about B.L., its that I am incredibly unimpressed with him. I hope that can change though.
Would you have rather had Zarella?

I find it hard to believe everyone got peeved over what was obviously an off the cuff joke. If anyone actually believes that he has no intention of bringing Camaro back for another 30 years, I suggest you look up the best shrink in your neighborhood, and make an apointment straightaway before someone tells you the truth about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. You are taking this way, way too seriously.

The design department is no longer rulled by focus groups, and has more pull than they have had in years (or lifetimes for some of us). Brand management (minus chrome bars, and split grilles) is dead and buried. RWD is comming back to a number of products. GM is investing money in cars again instead of just SUVs & Trucks. In 24-36 Months, GM will be making rear drive performance cars here in North America. Products that naysayers said couldn't be brought here from another country because it didn't offer SUV-like profit margins are on their way. And, it's becoming a fact that Camaro will be back....and we most certainly aren't talking 30 years down the road.

Where's the problem???

Cars that developed entirely on Lutz's watch wont be out till 2005 at the earliest. He could have sat on his hands till then. But in all honesty, those of you who are on his case now because you don't like GTO, or SC FWD Impala's or Monte Carlos, or some of his other measures to hold down the Fort till the good stuff arrives, would you have been more forgiving?

It takes at least 4 years to develop a car from scratch, and he's been on the job only 16 months!

Looking at LS6 CTSs, GXP Bonnevilles, and the forementioned upcomming stopgap cars, I think there would be a bit more praising here because he simply didn't wait till his cars came out, and took the effort to take the hand he was delt, and turn them into something a whole lot better. We may not like them, but at least he made the effort. When was the last time someone in his position at GM did that? My guess, the mid 1960s.

You simply WON"T see the cars you want till at the earliest 2005 probally as 2006s. Not because someone doesn't care about enthusiast, or is giving someone the big blow off, but because it actually takes that long to make a car.

It may take 18 months after the go ahead is given, but before the meeting that gives that go-ahead, the design, engineering, planning, manufacturing layout, and all the other stuff adds on alot of time. There are things that are actually being rushed towards production, and they won't be out till at the earliest 2005/06.

As for a Camaro, it has someone high making it a top priority, so I for one am no longer worried about Camaro comming back. Alot of people in GM (including Chevrolet) are now being heard who wern't before.

Some people really need to calm down. It was a joke. A lame one, but still a joke.

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